# SHOCKING NEWS: Sean Hannity is a Lying Douchebag! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 10, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594 "2009-07-10T18:55:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/41 "2009-07-10T20:16:03Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > It’s the **Iron Curtain** , for fuck sakes! I thought once was a typo but every time! Come on! > Give up on the starving artist thing and feed your brain! Please! Let’s just say he’ll be ordering off the kid’s menu, knowwhatimean? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/42 "2009-07-10T20:16:18Z")
And what about the stupidity of the question? “Mr. President, is there some reason you are reluctant to sneer, crow, and yell “neener-neener” during a sensitive diplomatic visit, you wimp!” And **Starkers**? When Obama takes a shower, he washes away more information that you’ve ever had. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/43 "2009-07-10T20:19:15Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, I don’t think they say the same thing at all. Obama merely made a weak-sounding comment about how he’s of course 'proud of the traditions of Democratic and Republican presidents to lift the iron curtin (in other words, appearing to expose life behind it but little else), vs. Walesa’s statement of outright gratitude to the U.S. and Ronald Reagan for Polish independence. I think you’ve misread. I’m not comparing Obama’s statement with Walesa’s. I’m comparing Obama’s statement with _yours_. I’m saying that I don’t see a difference between Obama’s comments and your own final comment as far as how deserving of scorn they are. Neither seems to me particularly wishy-washy nor a comment that says something while actually saying nothing - so to my mind, it seemed odd on one hand to decry a particular statement as unimpressive fluff while indulging in such fluff oneself. > [@](#): > > In other words, Obama’s statement was wishy-washy and still seemed reluctant to give credit where due when it came to the U.S.’ role in the fall of the iron curtin, where Walesa was bold and unflinching in stating his view that Poland’s freedom was due to the U.S. and Ronald Reagan. That’s actually incorrect - Walesa states that it was due to Reagan - indeed, a person might construe from that that he was reluctant to mention the US or indeed the American people. I’d say that would be stretching it, but no more than your claim of Obama, who at the least talks about Presidents on either side in general, and names populations along with leaders. I think you may be reading reluctantness where it doesn’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/44 "2009-07-10T20:20:28Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Let’s say a quarterback, through his leadership ability, leads his team to victory against a tough opponent. Would you say that the quarterback won the game or that the team won it, thanks in large part to the quarterback’s leadership? Evidence for Reagan \*leading \*it, not just jumping on the bandwagon, is, well, what? We keep asking but not getting. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/45 "2009-07-10T20:21:32Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > I love this comic book stuff. Once again…surly you don’t believe that Reagan and the US’s sole action was ‘one pandering speech’, or that the Soviet Union just disintegrated all on it’s own…do you? Certainly there were a lot of factors, and a lot of players…but your comic book ‘Reagan and the US had little to no role’ is just about as stupid as the folks who say that Reagan and the US were solely responsible. > > -XT How is it ‘comic book’? The Soviet Union was collapsing under its own weight. Our threats and posturing over Poland at the time were just like our threats and posturing over Afghanistan; big words that didn’t really go anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/46 "2009-07-10T20:21:50Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Starving Artist, are you even aware of what you’re writing here? Are you aware that we can all view the clip in question and it’s absolutely, positively clear that you’re wrong? Of course I’m aware of it. Where am I wrong? Yeah, you’re right, **Sparky**. At least I remembered to capitalize the Cold War, eh? My apologies. I’m typing as fast as I can, tilting at windmills and trying to keep things honest around here. It’s almost a full time job and sometimes an error of punctuation can occur. But anyway, I’m outta here for now. Work beckons and playtime is, unfortunately, over. And by the way,\*\* EP\*\*, I don’t rail against every point made by the opposition, just the ones that are wrong…you know, like the OP’s. To let them stand is how the lie becomes the truth. (Yes, I may be suffering Michael Jackson overload, why do you ask?) ---
**Author:** ![Carnacki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Carnacki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnacki)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/47 "2009-07-10T20:22:43Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > “Silly you” is right. My answer was in response to **Marley23’s** contention that the reporter demanded that Obama admit that the Cold War was won by Democratic and Republican presidents, when in reality the reporter said that is was won due to the leadership of American presidents. > > Let me see if I can put it in simpler terms that even you might understand. Let’s say a quarterback, through his leadership ability, leads his team to victory against a tough opponent. Would you say that the quarterback won the game or that the team won it, thanks in large part to the quarterback’s leadership? > > The reporter alluded to the role of American presidents’ leadership in breaking down the iron curtin. He didn’t say that American presidents won it. Sorry, I was watching a different video. In the one I watched, the reporter quoted a speech from Obama, and then said he didn’t give America enough credit. Then **Marley23** said that the news clip deleted the portion that showed Obama giving America credit. Then you said that the reporter made no such demand. What video were you watching? Link please? ETA: Or maybe you’re more of a math type. Try this. Reporter: A? Obama: A. News clip: Everything except A. Marley23: They deleted A! You: Reporter never asked “A?”. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/48 "2009-07-10T20:25:46Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Of course I’m aware of it. Where am I wrong? > > Yeah, you’re right, **Sparky**. At least I remembered to capitalize the Cold War, eh? My apologies. I’m typing as fast as I can, tilting at windmills and trying to keep things honest around here. It’s almost a full time job and sometimes an error of punctuation can occur. > > But anyway, I’m outta here for now. Work beckons and playtime is, unfortunately, over. > > And by the way,\*\* EP\*\*, I don’t rail against every point made by the opposition, just the ones that are wrong…you know, like the OP’s. To let them stand is how the lie becomes the truth. (Yes, I may be suffering Michael Jackson overload, why do you ask?) How very noble. If it were true. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/49 "2009-07-10T20:26:43Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It was probably cut for purposes of time more than anything else. Yeah, I’m sure that’s why the cut the part that would completely negate Hannity’s diatribe. Of course one could argue that if you don’t have time in your show to show the whole answer in context then you shouldn’t, y’know, show any of it. But that’s me, I have morals. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/50 "2009-07-10T20:27:07Z")
[QUOTE=Syntropy] How is it ‘comic book’? The Soviet Union was collapsing under its own weight. [/QUOTE] The short answer is, it was collapsing under it’s own weight due to trying to keep up it’s spending for military and other expenses with the US (like it’s space program). Simply put, we spent them to death. The long answer is, you should really do some research to see exactly what happened to the Soviets before getting into a discussion about them. This is pretty basic stuff, and attempting to say that the US (let alone Reagan) ‘had little to no role’ is, frankly, stupid. > [@](#): > > Our threats and posturing over Poland at the time were just like our threats and posturing over Afghanistan; big words that didn’t really go anywhere. Again, it had an effect that was cumulative with everything else we (and others) were doing. The Soviet’s essentially died the death of a thousand cuts…Reagan’s ‘tear down this wall’ speech being another small cut that helped add up to death. The US played a pivotal role in the demise of the Soviet’s…and Reagan certainly had a non-zero effect, if nothing else on the psychology of the Soviet elite and how they worried about what he MIGHT do. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/51 "2009-07-10T20:27:38Z")
> [@Carnacki](#): > > Sorry, I was watching a different video. In the one I watched, the reporter quoted a speech from Obama, and then said he didn’t give America enough credit. Then **Marley23** said that the news clip deleted the portion that showed Obama giving America credit. Then you said that the reporter made no such demand. What video were you watching? Link please? Everything necessary to show how you’ve incorrectly simplified things to you your own advantage is available upthread. I don’t have time right now to run you back through it. **RT** , I’ll try to answer later. Regards. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/52 "2009-07-10T20:28:11Z")
Side note: I thought the side by side thing was stupid, I couldn’t understand what was being said, took about three listenings. Stupid, stupid liberal media! ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/53 "2009-07-10T20:30:52Z")
It’s the parting shot that Obama should “hit the history books before his next foreign trip” that irks me! He answered the question off the top of his head and paused just long enough to get his facts straight. I see nothing wrong with that… in fact, I appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/54 "2009-07-10T20:32:49Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Again, it had an effect that was cumulative with everything else we (and others) were doing. The Soviet’s essentially died the death of a thousand cuts…Reagan’s ‘tear down this wall’ speech being another small cut that helped add up to death. The US played a pivotal role in the demise of the Soviet’s…and Reagan certainly had a non-zero effect, if nothing else on the psychology of the Soviet elite and how they worried about what he MIGHT do. So because I disagree with you I must not have done any research? Okay. I’m sorry, you didn’t mention earlier that you were delusional in addition to being a sanctimonious twat. The Soviet Union did indeed fall due to a myriad of reasons; collapsed economy and corruption within the bureaucracy being the chief among those. Reagan’s speech to ‘tear down this wall’ may still cause conservatives to wet their pants but in truth, it was already over by that time. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/55 "2009-07-10T20:34:52Z")
Of course, there is something that is truly (not sarcastically) shocking about Hannity in the clip. He gives credit to some Democratic Presidents for something they did. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/56 "2009-07-10T20:38:10Z")
It seems to me that the major beef was that Obama wouldn’t say we ‘won’ the Cold war. Only that it ‘reached it’s conclusion’, in order to avoid offending the Russians. Obama tried to hand wave that criticism by saying that a lot of people were involved, so technically it wasn’t the US that won, but rather everybody. He cites Walesa as an example. Only Walesa seems to give all the credit to Reagan and the US. Hannity’s comment about Walesa seems to be a direct rebuttal to what Obama said about Walesa. It would make a lot more sense if that part wasn’t cut out. So I think I vote for ‘random edit guy cutting the clip to make it fit’ as opposed to ‘Lying Douchebag’!!! ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/57 "2009-07-10T20:38:59Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Are you suggesting that a sitting president should ostracize certain duly accredited news organizations based on their political orientation? Fox News has a political orientation? What orientation would that be? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/58 "2009-07-10T20:39:04Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And by the way,\*\* EP\*\*, I don’t rail against every point made by the opposition, just the ones that are wrong…you know, like the OP’s. To let them stand is how the lie becomes the truth. (Yes, I may be suffering Michael Jackson overload, why do you ask?) So you suppose Hannity did not edit the clip in a very specific manner to make it appear that Obama did not give credit to any Americans for the end of the cold war? So this thread is an unfair attack on Hannity’s integrity? And you must defend this heinous attack, nay this lie about the pureness of Hannity’s intentions? If so, you are completely deluded my friend. Either that or you are deliberately poking us and are having a laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/59 "2009-07-10T20:39:58Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Yeah, you’re right, **Sparky**. At least I remembered to capitalize the Cold War, eh? My apologies. I’m typing as fast as I can, **tilting at windmills** and trying to keep things honest around here. This is more apt than you realize. You’re using it here to describe how futile your efforts are, but it also implies that they’re futile _because you’re deluded_. And in the very next clause you talk about how you’re trying to keep things honest around here, when you’re the one who looks at windmills and sees giants. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594/60 "2009-07-10T20:42:21Z")
Walesa seems to be giving Reagan an awful lot of credit in that quote. Why would he be speak in such gushing terms over the man in such a manner? Oh, could it be because the quote was taken from an interview with him taken right after Reagan kicked the bucket? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shocking-news-sean-hannity-is-a-lying-douchebag/502594.md?page=4)