# Shodan gives us all his regards. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 10, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825 "2012-07-10T19:58:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/141 "2012-07-11T04:57:04Z")
Even still, no one wants to look like a pushover. I’d even concede that it may have started out totally innocent, but as a poster that cuts against the grain of the board (not that there’s anything wrong with that!), his trademark sign-off comes off like a snarky stinger, which he probably knows but doesn’t give a shit. This was fun though. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/142 "2012-07-11T05:00:11Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > An ellipsis has three dots, not four. It is also a single character itself, not simply three periods: … What I was taught, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in my apprentice proofreader days, by a hoary old veteran of the craft, was this: An ellipsis in the middle of text has three dots. An ellipsis ending a sentence has three dots plus a fourth for the period ending the sentence. Thus: An ellipsis … has three dots. An ellipsis ending a sentence has three dots plus a fourth for the period… But nobody seems to follow that rule these days, so I don’t bother with it any more. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/143 "2012-07-11T05:05:18Z")
Really? Why would you use another punctuation that means “full stop”, after a punctuation that indicates a “trail-off” in thought? Not doubting what you were taught, just seems to be a confliction of what the punctuation is indicating. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/144 "2012-07-11T05:08:21Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Now wait a second here. I am the one pitting him for this, and I am not “liberal”. I previously stated in this very thread that I frequently agree with **Shodan**. Don’t make this about goddamn politics. It has nothing to do with fucking politics. Jesus Fucking Christ, it has everything to do with politics. **Shodan** ’s little sign off is a FUCK YOU to all the liberal pussies on this board that disagree with him. He’s practically said as much. How ironic that you keep asking him why he does this when it’s plain as day why he does. But hey, keep asking if it makes you feel any better. ---
**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/145 "2012-07-11T05:09:41Z")
I stole it for my iPhone email sig. Just so… awesome-ly arrogant. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/146 "2012-07-11T05:14:29Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > …and the _evil libruls_ will have won. We will anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/147 "2012-07-11T05:25:57Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Wheelchairs on ice? I’m not doubting you, but that would seem a bit problematic to me. How the hell do they go down the ice with the broom if they are on wheelchairs? unless… > > Are they special Zamboni wheelchairs? Because that would kick ass. Special Olympic kids playing shuffleboard on ice with Zamboni wheelchairs. I’d buy a ticket to see that. Zamboni wheelchairs would be cool, no doubt about that, but they wouldn’t work for curling. Curling ice is not supposed to be smooth. It’s sprayed with water droplets that freeze on contact and create a pebbled surface. Can’t curl without it. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/148 "2012-07-11T05:33:25Z")
> [@sateryn76](#): > > **so…** [color=“white”]----|\\\| ----| _–_ | –( (@)-(@) ) ----|-…-| -------_–/ ------\__/ [/color] ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/149 "2012-07-11T05:35:54Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Zamboni wheelchairs would be cool, no doubt about that, but they wouldn’t work for curling. Curling ice is not supposed to be smooth. It’s sprayed with water droplets that freeze on contact and create a pebbled surface. Can’t curl without it. Hence the _freeze_-ray! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/150 "2012-07-11T05:38:03Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Really? Why would you use another punctuation that means “full stop”, after a punctuation that indicates a “trail-off” in thought? > > Not doubting what you were taught, just seems to be a confliction of what the punctuation is indicating. Because an ellipsis is not, in fact, a “‘trailoff’ in thought” (though that is how it is often used in current written communication); it signifies (at least in the context where I learned the rule, which was proofreading legal appellate briefs that often quoted from case law) that a segment of quoted text has been elided. So, an ellipsis of three dots in the middle of a sentence, to signify that something has been cut therefrom; an ellipsis of four dots at the end, to signify that a chunk of text has been snipped from the sentence, and that the sentence itself has ended. Thus: “Not doubting what you were taught, just seems to be a confliction of … the punctuation…” could also be transcribed as: “Not doubting what you were taught, just seems to be a confliction of […] the punctuation […].” No doubt this seems fussily hypertechnical, but such a mindset comes with the territory in legal writing. Note, for example, that my editing of your sentence does change its meaning, though very slightly, more as a matter of nuance than anything else; but selective elision in a quotation can radically change its import. Thus it is imperative to inform the court via things like ellipses and “[Emphasis added.]” and so forth that the words it’s reading have been altered in some way from the original context. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/151 "2012-07-11T05:46:22Z")
I quit the Ellipsis Task Force! The hot-pink vest and cap looked stupid anyway. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/152 "2012-07-11T05:47:24Z")
But I’m keeping the whistle… ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/153 "2012-07-11T05:50:40Z")
Actually, upon reflection, I want to come back to the “trail-off in thought” aspect of ellipses, because that is a correct usage also, and I shouldn’t have been so dismissive of it; I was back in the legal-editing mindset, a very narrow one indeed. 😉 For the trail-off – or the trail-in, e.g., > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by splatterpunk > > …and the evil libruls will have won. – as a written reflection of speech patterns, yeh, go ahead and use three dots, or four or five or… heck, as many as the length of the trail you’re transcribing. 😃 On preview: You can keep the whistle, but you have to wear the vest and cap to blow it. ETA: And by the way, the plural of Jesus isn’t Jesus’ – it’s Jesuses. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/154 "2012-07-11T06:08:57Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > ETA: And by the way, the plural of Jesus isn’t Jesus’ – it’s Jesuses. 😛 But ‘Jesuses’ just hurts my eyeses. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/155 "2012-07-11T06:10:00Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > But ‘Jesuses’ just hurts my eyeses. Right, that’s it – I’m taking back the vest, the cap, AND the whistle. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/156 "2012-07-11T06:11:49Z")
Not my whistle, _nooooo!_ ---
**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/157 "2012-07-11T06:13:09Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > I have only two things to say. > > 1. I am generally indifferent to sign-offs, but > > love > yams!! > > is awesome. > > 1. The plural of “ellipsis” is “ellipses” (dammit). Just came in to say the same thing about “love, yams!!” For some reason, I always thought that was sort of cute. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/158 "2012-07-11T06:13:52Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Hence the _freeze_-ray! No man, didn’t you read **robot arm’s** post? The freeze ray is just going to make that rough ice even frozener. You need to melt that shit with heat. Special Olympics kids on zamboni wheelchairs playing shuffleboard on ice with flame throwers. ---
**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/159 "2012-07-11T06:14:37Z")
If you believe in the Trinity, wouldn’t the plural of Jesus be: God. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825/160 "2012-07-11T06:19:17Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > If you believe in the Trinity, wouldn’t the plural of Jesus be: God. Or the Holy (hic!) Spirits? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-gives-us-all-his-regards/627825.md?page=9)