# Shodan is a racist?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 21, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019 "2009-09-21T23:30:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/21 "2009-09-22T00:08:26Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Quick! Before **Frank** shows up!

He just can’t read for content.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/22 "2009-09-22T00:09:41Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I’m a liberal. I’ve been posting here for about ten years, too. In that time, I’ve never once called you (or **Shodan** ) a racist, a homophobe, sexist, or generally bigoted/prejudiced.
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> Thanks for being a dick to me anyway, though.

Yeah, so speaketh **Miller**. I haven’t been here as long as you guys, but as another one of those liberals, I must say I enjoy being painted with that large brush. Perhaps next time you have something in chartreuse.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/23 "2009-09-22T00:09:42Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I’m sorry. I meant all Liberals except for you. Oh, and Wring, she’s pretty cool.

Well, fuck you too.

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/24 "2009-09-22T00:17:37Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> Yeah, so speaketh **Miller**. I haven’t been here as long as you guys, but as another one of those liberals, I must say I enjoy being painted with that large brush. Perhaps next time you have something in chartreuse.

Well, at least it’s a nice prickly brush. My poor old liberal back had been itching.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/25 "2009-09-22T00:17:52Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Well, fuck you too.

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> =faithfool;]eah, so speaketh Miller. I haven’t been here as long as you guys, but as another one of those liberals, I must say I enjoy being painted with that large brush. Perhaps next time you have something in chartreuse.

My understanding is that by not condemning, you are condoning. So, whether or not you _personally_ made such a specious accusation is moot. You simply had to witness one without doing something about it.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/26 "2009-09-22T00:21:45Z")

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So even if we didn’t read those threads, we’re screwed. I knew I wasn’t as cool as **wring**.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/27 "2009-09-22T00:23:16Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> So even if we didn’t read those threads, we’re screwed. I knew I wasn’t as cool as **wring**.

Few are.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/28 "2009-09-22T00:26:44Z")

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Glad to know where you stand **Scylla**. But for the record, as if it matters, I don’t think **Shodan** is a racist either. Go figure.  
I’ll go back to using your brush in ways not intended.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/29 "2009-09-22T00:29:14Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> IMO making a joke based on the color of a person’s skin is racist.

This just in: Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor: Racists.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/30 "2009-09-22T00:31:40Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> The ad on this page shows a giant angry beaver biting a lumber jack on the cock.

The sexual tension in this thread is building as we speak.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/31 "2009-09-22T00:37:32Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> This just in: Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor: Racists.

You don’t see the difference between a white person making a joke about black people and a black person making a joke about black people?

ETA: I see no one but Scylla has answered my original question. While I disagree with you Scylla, I appreciate the fact that you took the time to answer.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/32 "2009-09-22T00:40:10Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> You don’t see the difference between a white person making a joke about black people and a black person making a joke about black people?

Except they both had bits about paleface/whitey/cracker etc.

Is it only racist if it’s directed at a minority?

Or more likely, is it the intent that makes a statement racist rather than the bare content?

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/33 "2009-09-22T00:41:29Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I’ve been posting here for ten years. This place is my main experience of liberal thought.

I think this may be a problem.

Anyway, everyone knows **Shodan** is equally prejudiced against \*all \*humans, not simply those of one colour. They pale before his magnificience.

More seriously, if it helps at all, i’ve not seen anything that’s made me consider you a racist (or any of those other things you mentioned).

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/34 "2009-09-22T00:42:01Z")

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So, **Scylla** , is that cross made out of ebony or ivory?

[sub]BTW, which was the “monster nigger” thread? I remember the grandfather one, but not the other.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/35 "2009-09-22T00:45:57Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> Except they both had bits about paleface/whitey/cracker etc.
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> Is it only racist if it’s directed at a minority?
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> Or more likely, is it the intent that makes a statement racist rather than the bare content?

You make a good point.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/36 "2009-09-22T00:46:25Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> You don’t see the difference between a white person making a joke about black people and a black person making a joke about black people?

Or a black person making a joke about white people?

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> ETA: I see no one but Scylla has answered my original question. While I disagree with you Scylla, I appreciate the fact that you took the time to answer.

No biggee.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/37 "2009-09-22T00:48:05Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> [sub]BTW, which was the “monster nigger” thread? I remember the grandfather one, but not the other.[/sub]

One and the same.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/38 "2009-09-22T00:49:10Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> [sub]BTW, which was the “monster nigger” thread? I remember the grandfather one, but not the other.[/sub]

The one you remember is the one Hentor is referring to. You’re confused and think there is two because Hentor’s lying mischaracterization is so egregious.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/39 "2009-09-22T00:57:26Z")

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So much for the media being the mighty mouthpiece of the left, if this is your main source of liberal thought.

I’m a liberal and here’s a thought: the people here post their opinions and don’t intend to speak for huge swathes of the population. If it’s easier to mischaracterize a segment of the country than to keep that simple premise in mind, you must be a conservative. Oh, oops…

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/40 "2009-09-22T00:58:54Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> The one you remember is the one Hentor is referring to. You’re confused and think there is two because Hentor’s lying mischaracterization is so egregious.

Why don’t you post it so we can see if I’m lying or mischaracterizing?

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