# Shodan is a racist?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 21, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019 "2009-09-21T23:30:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/81 "2009-09-22T19:21:24Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Martyrdom isn’t nearly as cool when it’s due to self-immolation.

😃  
Bumper sticker worthy.

Incidentally I’m one of the liberals on the board and I’ve been called a racist on said board. Several times actually. Most recently it was because I said I thought Henry Louis Gates’s arrest was partly due to his being a horse’s ass (something I still believe even after reviewing the situation upon learning I was on the same side as people I can’t stand). It’s true that it’s a kneejerk reaction to some people to accuse you of an -ism when they want to draw the argument to a close, but… what can ya do?

Well, one thing of course is to learn that the SDMB is an excellent representative sample of people who post to the Straight Dope Message Board and that’s about it. I don’t judge all conservatives by Fox News and I don’t judge all liberals by PETA.

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**Author:** ![Library\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cab0a1/32.png) [@Library\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Library_Boy)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/82 "2009-09-22T19:37:00Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> I’m temporarily living with my sister, who is about as Republican as it gets, as are her friends, or at least the ones I’ve met. Racists, one and all.

Then why are you living with her? Not willing to take a stand?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/83 "2009-09-22T19:41:44Z")

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> [@Library\_Boy](#):
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> Then why are you living with her? Not willing to take a stand?

A. She’s family. I have family members that, if I’m around them for more than an hour, I have toothmarks on my tongue from biting it.

B. He’s going through a rather difficult personal period of time and he may be stuck with living there for a little while. Taking a stand on something like this when you have nowhere else to live may be admirable, but it’s not exactly smart.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/84 "2009-09-22T20:31:40Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> I miss the blimps.

Yeah. The Terror Of The Blimp was “da shiznit”.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/85 "2009-09-22T20:38:05Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> B. He’s going through a rather difficult personal period of time and he may be stuck with living there for a little while. Taking a stand on something like this when you have nowhere else to live may be admirable, but it’s not exactly smart.

OTOH, relying on your sister’s hospitality in your hour of need while simultaneously denouncing her behind her back as a racist is less than admirable, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/86 "2009-09-22T20:47:40Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> A. She’s family. I have family members that, if I’m around them for more than an hour, I have toothmarks on my tongue from biting it.
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> B. He’s going through a rather difficult personal period of time and he may be stuck with living there for a little while. Taking a stand on something like this when you have nowhere else to live may be admirable, but it’s not exactly smart.

Thanks for the support. My sister is republican and she is racist. But she is my sister and if it weren’t for her, I’d be homeless.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/87 "2009-09-22T20:52:32Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> OTOH, relying on your sister’s hospitality in your hour of need while simultaneously denouncing her behind her back as a racist is less than admirable, IMHO.

How do you know that I denounce her behind her back? We have, for years, denounced each other face to face and we continue to do so, not that it is any of your god damned business.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/88 "2009-09-22T20:56:47Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> How do you know that I denounce her behind her back? We have, for years, denounced each other face to face and we continue to do so

I assumed that she doesn’t read these boards, but if she does, no difference.

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> not that it is any of your god damned business.

If it’s not my business, then don’t post about it here. Once you do you don’t get to whine if people comment on it, sorry.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/89 "2009-09-22T21:02:06Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> I assumed that she doesn’t read these boards, but if she does, no difference.If it’s not my business, then don’t post about it here. Once you do you don’t get to whine if people comment on it, sorry.

If people choose to comment, it would be better if they understood the situation before commenting. Personal relations between me and my sister are none of your god damned business and probably, hopefully, never will be. If you don’t get the difference between someone whining and someone telling you to fuck off, then I’ll spell it out for you: fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/90 "2009-09-22T21:12:20Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> If people choose to comment, it would be better if they understood the situation before commenting.

It’s hardly likely that there’s anything in “the situation” that compels you to call your sister and host a racist on a MB.

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> If you don’t get the difference between someone whining and someone telling you to fuck off, then I’ll spell it out for you: fuck off.

Counts as whining to me.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/91 "2009-09-22T21:15:54Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> The Greek mythological monster Scylla was also female.

I rest my case. 😃

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/92 "2009-09-22T22:34:29Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> The one you remember is the one Hentor is referring to. You’re confused and think there is two because Hentor’s lying mischaracterization is so egregious.

As I told “Hentor” at the time, I agree completely with his interpretation and his characterization of it is accurate now. I didn’t say it in the thread because we’d just gone back and forth over the fact that you don’t think gay folks are fit to be involved with the Boy Scouts and other displays of your support of inequality for gay people. It is true that I have called you a homophobe. I’ve seen nothing since then to change my view.  
Now I’ve never thought Shodan was racist. Dumb as a box of hammers. Pig-headed and intolerant. But not racist.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/93 "2009-09-22T23:42:21Z")

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Miller:  
See what I’m talking about?

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/94 "2009-09-22T23:43:45Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> I rest my case. 😃

**Scylla** is a rock. At least on his good days.

(It’s from Marathon Man, one of my favorite books)

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/95 "2009-09-22T23:49:09Z")

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Let’s see:

I got Hentor, and Hamlet and Homebrew.  
Maybe it’s just all liberals who start with an “H” who are total douchebags and race baiters.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/96 "2009-09-23T00:02:00Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> Let’s see:
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> I got Hentor, and Hamlet and Homebrew.  
> Maybe it’s just all liberals who start with an “H” who are total douchebags and race baiters.

I called you (completely correctly by the by) an attention whore, not a racist. But why would you let little things like facts and reality get into the way of your “PAY ATTENTION TO ME” thread.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/97 "2009-09-23T01:07:32Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I called you (completely correctly by the by) an attention whore, not a racist. But why would you let little things like facts and reality get into the way of your “PAY ATTENTION TO ME” thread.

The point is that you are a complete and utter douchebag, you are a liberal, and your username starts with “H.”  
Attention whore?

Yeah, so what? Everybody who posts here is looking for a response or interraction of some kind, otherwise they wouldn’t be posting on a public forum.

You too, dummy.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/98 "2009-09-23T01:13:51Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> Attention whore?
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> Yeah, so what? Everybody who posts here is looking for a response or interraction of some kind, otherwise they wouldn’t be posting on a public forum.

There is a massive difference between social interaction and standing on the table taking off your clothes and screaming “Stop paying attention to Shodan, pay attention to ME!!!” I’ve been called names too you know!!! And if that’s not enough, I think all liberals are racists!!! And douchebags!!! Isn’t that outrageous!!! Call me on it!!! Tell me I’m wrong!!! Pay attention to me!!! Please???

Please?

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/99 "2009-09-23T01:21:56Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> There is a massive difference between social interaction and standing on the table taking off your clothes and screaming “Stop paying attention to Shodan, pay attention to ME!!!” I’ve been called names too you know!!! And if that’s not enough, I think all liberals are racists!!! And douchebags!!! Isn’t that outrageous!!! Call me on it!!! Tell me I’m wrong!!! Pay attention to me!!! Please???
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> Please?

Yeah, ok. Thanks. Bye.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-a-racist/511019/100 "2009-09-23T01:25:12Z")

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You have to admit there is a difference between interacting with people and an attention whore.

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