# Shodan: Saviour of the Pit!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 24, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292 "2009-02-24T23:16:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/21 "2009-02-25T01:24:57Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > You know. > > With all this infantile pissing and moaning I’m starting to see Ed’s point here. It’s a well-regarded point ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/22 "2009-02-25T01:57:48Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > It’s a well-regarded point _Regardez moi!_ ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/23 "2009-02-25T02:16:49Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > Given the board’s decision that “buckeye” is code for “lick my hairy nutsack you crazy ass bitch” and therefore needed to be prohibited to spare **Opal** ’s feelings I’m kind of surprised at the inconsistency. I haven’t heard this ruling, do you have a link? Not that I was planning on using that word anytime soon, or that I have any intention to gratuitously insult **Opal** , even if I think her objection to the word is pretty silly. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/24 "2009-02-25T04:04:48Z")
I knew Shodan would come in handy one day. And, I knew Ed Zotti was a pissy bitch when he banned me for no reason last year. This new bullshit is really fucking pathetic. Profanity and personal insults in the Pit – suddenly that’s a crisis? Nothing I haven’t seen throughout the past decade. ETA: If I’m not heard from tomorrow, it’ll mean he’s banned me again. Last time, the title under my name never changed from “Charter Member”, which was irritating. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/25 "2009-02-25T04:48:23Z")
> [@Baldwin](#): > > I knew Shodan would come in handy one day. I’m pretty sure Shodan is still a fuckwaffle. What I’m not sure about is whether that is insulting or abusive. ---
**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/26 "2009-02-25T05:55:35Z")
We are not amused. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/27 "2009-02-25T06:02:29Z")
> [@waterj2](#): > > I haven’t heard this ruling, do you have a link? > > Not that I was planning on using that word anytime soon, or that I have any intention to gratuitously insult **Opal** , even if I think her objection to the word is pretty silly. There may be more than one link, given that the term enjoyed a brief popularity in these parts, but I am aware of one instance which I cannot find since I have crummy SDMB search-fu. I can tell you this about the thread I was in: - Hostile Dialect used the term - SkipMagic slapped HD down - I posted in the thread (in fact I have a vague recollection that it was a thread I started, but that doesn’t seem likely given my failed search attempt) - The slapdown occurred around the 3rd or 4th of February 2009 - In an admirable show of good grace, Opal came in and posted after SkipMagic to say she did not mind if people wanted to use the the term ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/28 "2009-02-25T06:12:28Z")
I didn’t need Shodan to actually admit that he was telling us to “regard” off, I saw it in his posts in the first thread I ever saw it in. Like duh. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/29 "2009-02-25T08:11:30Z")
> [@waterj2](#): > > I haven’t heard this ruling, do you have a link? [Thread=504439]Found it[/Thread] See posts 47 and 86. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/30 "2009-02-25T08:36:37Z")
Originally posted by **Exeter** “Scorn and defiance; slight regard, contempt, And any thing that may not misbecome The mighty sender, doth he prize you at.” I’d originally thought that was a pretty good verbal smackdown, but now I just see a mixed message. I hold in the highest regard the individuals who caused that. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/31 "2009-02-25T09:13:39Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I didn’t need Shodan to actually admit that he was telling us to “regard” off, I saw it in his posts in the first thread I ever saw it in. Like duh. Duh indeed. It’s not the admission that matters so much here, though with **Shodan** the lack of an explicit admission usually equates to a vehement denial, but the fact that he has openly admitted using “Regards” to mean “Fuck You” and TPTB has sanctioned that use by not cracking down on it, ordering him to stop using the sig-line if that’s his implied meaning, etc. **Ed** has told us that “Regards” in the sense of “Fuck You” is acceptable on the Straight Dope, inside or outside of the Pit. Now that he has also announced that “Fuck You” itself is verboten, we have a handy-dandy all-purpose substitute available, and I recommend we all start using it freely. Regards to you and to your entire family, PRR ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/32 "2009-02-25T14:26:16Z")
Can we say it in latin? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/33 "2009-02-25T14:27:18Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Folks, \*\*Shodan \*\* has given us a shining path through the dark woods. If you’ve been following our story, you know that \*\*Shodan \*\*has announced that his notorious sig-line “Regards, **Shodan** ” is intended to connote “Fuck you” on occasions, and on other occasions is meant as a mere friendly closing remark. Despite numerous complaints by me and several others which have been roundly ignored, complaints addressing the permission \*\*Shodan \*\*has been granted by TPTB to insult people grossly outside of the Pit, TPTB have ruled that \*\*Shodan \*\*may continue to use his sig-line freely. > > Now since we have just had the rug pulled from under the feet of those who were formerly given to drop an occasional F-Bomb or twelve, I think we have to follow \*\*Shodan’s \*\*example and tell each other, when people need a F-bomb hurled in their general direction, a simple “Regards.” I think we’ll all understand what that means, in certain contexts. We can be creative, too. “Regards, sideways, with a rusty drill bit” for example, will leave its meaning fairly undisguised, I think. > > So thank you, **Shodan**. And, as ever, my warmest regards to you. You’re STILL harping on this?!!! Unbelievable. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/34 "2009-02-25T14:29:53Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > You’re STILL harping on this?!!! Unbelievable. Believe it. And thanks for your contribution to this thread, for the first of which I am still waiting patiently. Regards in spades, PRR ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/35 "2009-02-25T14:55:00Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Believe it. > > And thanks for your contribution to this thread, for the first of which I am still waiting patiently. > > Regards in spades, > > PRR This is some funny shit. You continue harping on this, the Mods have weighed in and issued an official ruling, and still you persist. This has made you look like a fool already in the past. Yet, you persist. How this can be such a big deal to anyone is just sad. And every time you do this, Shodan has another laugh at your expense. As do I. And, I’m sure, others. Good day, sir!! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/36 "2009-02-25T15:16:34Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Believe it. > > And thanks for your contribution to this thread, for the first of which I am still waiting patiently. > > Regards in spades, > > PRR Thanks for your contrbution that you haven’t made? ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/37 "2009-02-25T15:22:47Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Good day, sir!! Regards to the horse you rode in on, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/38 "2009-02-25T15:58:01Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > There may be more than one link, given that the term enjoyed a brief popularity in these parts, but I am aware of one instance which I cannot find since I have crummy SDMB search-fu. I can tell you this about the thread I was in: > > - Hostile Dialect used the term > > - SkipMagic slapped HD down > > - I posted in the thread (in fact I have a vague recollection that it was a thread I started, but that doesn’t seem likely given my failed search attempt) > > - The slapdown occurred around the 3rd or 4th of February 2009 > > - In an admirable show of good grace, Opal came in and posted after SkipMagic to say she did not mind if people wanted to use the the term Your understanding of the situation is a bit off. Neither “buckeyes” or “buckeye” is prohibited. Instead, a specific instance–designed to insult another poster–was relegated to the Pit, only. This shouldn’t have been a surprise since insults have never been allowed outside the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/39 "2009-02-25T16:26:03Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Thanks for your contrbution that you haven’t made? Excellent! Reminds me of my favorite movie line: Golfer Dude: I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast! Happy Gilmore: You eat pieces of shit for breakfast? ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292/40 "2009-02-25T16:35:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **SkipMagic:** > Your understanding of the situation is a bit off. Not really - I understand the situation quite well. it would be more accurate to say that my summary was incomplete. I should have said (bolding added after the fact): > [@](#): > > - Hostile Dialect used the term **outside of the Pit** > > - SkipMagic slapped HD down and said “buckeyes” was an insult and therefore could not be used **outside the Pit** > > - I posted in the thread (in fact I have a vague recollection that it was a thread I started, but that doesn’t seem likely given my failed search attempt) > > - The slapdown occurred around the 3rd or 4th of February 2009 > > - In an admirable show of good grace, Opal came in and posted after SkipMagic to say she did not mind if people wanted to use the the term, **by implication including outside the Pit.** To me, “buckeyes” is NOT short-hand for a swipe at Opal, rather (as I stated on 30 Jan) in [thread=503921]this thread[/thread]: > [@](#): > > I hesitate to try to condense the meaning that “buckeye” has taken on as a result of that thread, but “take your self-righteous oversensitivity elsewhere, I’m not buying it” is as close as I can come. I don’t claim to speak for the entire Dope, but I’m pretty darn sure that the vast majority of recent posts containing the term “buckeye” have been either (1) silly repeating of an in-joke that many of us found to be uproarious; or (2) shorthand for the meaning I assigned it above. Using the term “buckeye” as a way to say “I’m gratuitously insulting Opal”? That’s gotta come in a distant third to the other two usages. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-saviour-of-the-pit/487292.md?page=3)