# Shodan, this is a disgusting attitude

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 20, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027 "2008-05-20T22:11:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/1 "2008-05-20T22:11:07Z")

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Shodan, I’m more or less conservative. We see eye to eye on many issues or at least agree vaguely. But in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=468740) thread on Ted Kennedy, you’ve made a gigantic ass out of yourself. You don’t have to like the man or his family to not be disgustingly pleased that he’s sick.

I don’t really like Ted Kennedy. Frankly, the family as a whole (if not all individuals) strikes me as self-absorbed, even narcistic, alchoholic elitists who blindly follow an ideology which gets them votes and power while trading on the name of a better man.

But I’m not happy he’s sick, particularly with such an illness. I hope he recovers, or at least passes gracefully and grently (unfortunately, these diagnosis is not very optimistic). I’m not going to fling around vague accusations about the driving thing since it’s over decades ago. it’s a little late and unimportant now.

I must say that I’m surprised and disgusted by your actions.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/2 "2008-05-20T22:16:51Z")

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Yeah, that was pretty out of line. Not his finest moment.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/3 "2008-05-20T22:18:19Z")

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Yeah, that was pretty shit-tastic thread behavior IMO.

(woah… I didn’t read **Contrapuntal’s** post before making this one. Eery.)

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/4 "2008-05-20T22:22:27Z")

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**Shodan**. Dude. What the fuck.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/5 "2008-05-20T22:23:56Z")

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Not that I have a dog in this fight, but if **Shodan** really dislikes Ted Kennedy, why not be happy he’s got a terminal illness?

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**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/6 "2008-05-20T22:24:33Z")

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I am outraged, it’s outrageous

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/7 "2008-05-20T22:33:02Z")

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He’s the conservative gadfly who pricks the hypocrisy of the liberal elitists. Maybe “prick” isn’t the exact word. On second thought, yeah, it is.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/8 "2008-05-20T22:36:51Z")

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Hey, you know that birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim and **Shodan** has to hate “lefties” It’s just the natural order of the universe.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/9 "2008-05-20T22:39:56Z")

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Open the dictionary to “graceless” and there’s **Shodan**.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/10 "2008-05-20T22:41:43Z")

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[QUOTE=smiling bandit]  
. . . . I must say that I’m surprised . . .  
[/QUOTE]  
You are?

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/11 "2008-05-20T22:46:26Z")

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I’ve been trying to figure out for, well, years now, why exactly no mod has called \*\*Shodan \*\*on his trollish behavior. A simple search for his name will reveal that most of his contributions to a thread are nothing more than one liners designed to elicit an aggressive response. He rarely mentions his views on a given subject (because then he’d have to defend his views), but instead just makes fun of opinions held by others (usually the dreaded “Usual Suspects” and/or liberals). In what way is that not the behavior of a troll?

Seriously, does he ever add anything of substance with his drive-by threadshits?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/12 "2008-05-20T22:48:28Z")

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In all fairness, if Dick Cheney were in that hospital bed I would, like every good and decent American, be praying to Og to increase his suffering and yet hasten his end.

But I don’t know as I’d post about it.

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**Author:** ![Merhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Merhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merhouse)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/13 "2008-05-20T23:53:17Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
In all fairness, if Dick Cheney were in that hospital bed I would, like every good and decent American, be praying to Og to increase his suffering and yet hasten his end.

But I don’t know as I’d post about it.  
[/QUOTE]

Sadly, that puts it all in some perspective. But you’re right, I wouldn’t post about it, either.

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**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/14 "2008-05-21T00:01:16Z")

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I hope none of the people horrified posted [in this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=420947)

For the record, not a Kennedy fan, but yeah, wouldn’t see a need to be mean about it. Man served (serves) his country the way he thought (thinks) best, and I can respect that.

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/15 "2008-05-21T00:04:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]  
Not that I have a dog in this fight, but if **Shodan** really dislikes Ted Kennedy, why not be happy he’s got a terminal illness?  
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…basic human decency?

…a recognition that some things are more important than the petty emotional satisfaction wrung from someone else’s suffering?

…a desire not to be a selfish asshole?

This really isn’t that complicated.

> [@ArizonaTeach](#):
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> I hope none of the people horrified posted in this thread.

What is with the stupid knee-jerk urge to go straight for the bullshit tu quoque argument?

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/16 "2008-05-21T00:05:21Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
In all fairness, if Dick Cheney were in that hospital bed I would, like every good and decent American, be praying to Og to increase his suffering and yet hasten his end.

But I don’t know as I’d post about it.  
[/QUOTE]  
Aw, sure you would. 🙂

In all seriousness, if Shodan believes Ted Kennedy to be a murderer, is he still obligated to respect the man’s life, feel sorry about his illness, and eventually mourn his death? ETA: In particular, a murderer who he may believe has cravenly gotten away with the crime? Who has lived a better life than the vast majority of us, rich and highly respected? Who seems completely unrepentant and unwilling to accept responsibility for his actions? This he has to respect?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/17 "2008-05-21T00:09:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]  
Aw, sure you would. 🙂

In all seriousness, if Shodan believes Ted Kennedy to be a murderer, is he still obligated to respect the man’s life, feel sorry about his illness, and eventually mourn his death?  
[/QUOTE]

So, we heartless Lefties can do a guilt-free happy dance once **Shodan** kicks it, then?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/18 "2008-05-21T00:09:40Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …I hope none of the people horrified posted in this thread…

I can clearly see your point there, both Falwell and Kennedy spent a lifetime drooling poisonous slime about vulnerable and harmless minorities! Why, they’re practically identical in their behavior! Like when Kennedy tried to blame the gay people and feminists for 9/11…oh, wait, that was Falwell? See, even I get them mixed up!

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/19 "2008-05-21T00:13:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
So, we heartless Lefties can do a guilt-free happy dance once **Shodan** kicks it, then?

-Joe  
[/QUOTE]  
I don’t know…do you believe him to be a murderer?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/20 "2008-05-21T00:14:17Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
In all fairness, if Dick Cheney were in that hospital bed I would, like every good and decent American, be praying to Og to increase his suffering and yet hasten his end.

But I don’t know as I’d post about it.  
[/QUOTE]

You are a better man than I. I would start a thread in MPSIMS to celebrate it. I just would not jump into a condolences thread to celebrate. Hell I don’t really have any liking for Ted, but I still think \*\*Shodan \*\* pick the wrong place to drop his load.

Jim

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