# Shodan, this is a disgusting attitude

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 20, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027 "2008-05-20T22:11:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/121 "2008-05-21T20:10:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]  
It seem like it’s not, because all throughout history, you see examples of cultures where things like revenge are important cultural traits.  
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Who cares what were “important cultural traits” to Ghengis Khan? Even if I were to concede that basic human decency is not a “human trait” but rather a “cultural trait,” you concede it is in fact a trait of our culture. How is that an argument for disregarding it?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/122 "2008-05-21T20:15:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Mosier]  
A bunch of you guys need to lighten up. You guys are the kind of douchebags that are trying to shit all over the cafe society threads “Obama/McCain looks like the kind of guy who…”

ANYTHING can be funny. Even dead babies, holocaust victims, rape, and Ted Kennedy having a brain tumor. Shodan’s remarks were sarcastic, and sometimes funny, and even if you don’t agree it certainly isn’t worth it to get all righteous and bent out of shape for a pitting.  
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Well, then he should have started a new discussion-THAT was not the thread to make jokes in.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/123 "2008-05-21T21:07:38Z")

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Or raise an ironic and skeptical eyebrow while maintaining a bemused but dignified silence. That would work.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/124 "2008-05-21T21:24:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
Thanks! Maybe I can blow a fuse later - that might be entertaining too.

Regards,  
Shodan  
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Well I have a wide selection of goats available it that doesn’t work out for you.  
You just let me know. Where did that brown one go…

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/125 "2008-05-21T21:28:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Polycarp]  
You know what, **Sarah**? Now that I’ve thought about it, I don’t hope you get gang-raped and then have your erstwhile conservative friends saying that you asked for it. But that was my initial emotional reaction to your posts.  
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This sentiment is going to pass with nary a comment, except to accuse Sarahfeena of “flouncing off” after reading it? Unfuckingbelievable.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/126 "2008-05-21T21:28:16Z")

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[punchline to the ventriloquist joke]

“Before we go any further, that sheep on the end’s a liar!”

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> [@](#):
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> This sentiment is going to pass with nary a comment, except to accuse Sarahfeena of “flouncing off” after reading it?

Probably better that way.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/127 "2008-05-21T21:41:57Z")

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Damn! I forgot to buy some Scotch…

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/128 "2008-05-21T21:56:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
This sentiment is going to pass with nary a comment, except to accuse Sarahfeena of “flouncing off” after reading it? Unfuckingbelievable.  
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I commented, but I think the microphone was off.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/129 "2008-05-21T22:02:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Polycarp]  
You know what, **Sarah**? Now that I’ve thought about it, I don’t hope you get gang-raped and then have your erstwhile conservative friends saying that you asked for it. But that was my initial emotional reaction to your posts.

Which might say two things: 1) it’s a good idea to slow down and think things over before acting. But 2) all of us have had enough regrets in our life to be able to sympathize with someone who made the wrong choice in a crisis situation.  
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The thing I can’t understand Polycarp, is why you don’t have the human decency to be ashamed of yourself for writing the above. Better to have hung a millstone around your neck and cast yourself into the sea.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you, that you actually typed that, and clicked “submit reply”?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/130 "2008-05-21T22:06:32Z")

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Hey! No hijacking my Pitting!

I think you mean “better to have been driven over a bridge with Teddy Kennedy hanging around your neck”.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/131 "2008-05-21T22:13:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Weirddave]  
The immigration “reform” that he sponsored and pushed through in the 60s has done more damage to this country than eight years of George W Bush’s freespending idiocy.  
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Yeah. When the floodgate of the Chinese was opened, their dry-cleaners mafia completely ruined the economy. It destroyed my childhood dream of washing clothes for a living, because my Cantonese is so poor. But as a result, I had to deliver food for a Chinese restaurant all night during college because of financial aid cuts. It affected my grades, but now I have an “in” with dry-cleaning mafia.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/132 "2008-05-21T22:13:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Jodi]  
I commented, but I think the microphone was off.  
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Sorry, I missed it. I agree with your sentiment to the letter, and Lemur866’s. I hope Polycarp comes back to this thread and makes amends.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/133 "2008-05-21T22:13:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
This sentiment is going to pass with nary a comment, except to accuse Sarahfeena of “flouncing off” after reading it? Unfuckingbelievable.  
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FWIW, I just read it, and I’m both surprised and appalled. **Polycarp** , what on earth possessed you to make you think that was in any way an appropriate thing to say? **Sarafeena** ’s posts in this thread have been reasonable and appropriate; if your first instinct was to wish gang-rape on her, that says some pretty awful things about you, but nothing about her. She’s not the one that needs to spend some time in deep reflection, IMO.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/134 "2008-05-22T01:19:47Z")

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Waitaminut… **POLYCARP** said that shit? What would the Gay Teen Messiah think?

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/135 "2008-05-22T01:23:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
The thing I can’t understand Polycarp, is why you don’t have the human decency to be ashamed of yourself for writing the above. Better to have hung a millstone around your neck and cast yourself into the sea.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you, that you actually typed that, and clicked “submit reply”?  
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Give him a break, please. It’s not easy turning the other cheek all the time. You get tired of wiping the shit off of yourself.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/136 "2008-05-22T01:51:27Z")

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Whether it’s fair or not, in my eyes **Polycarp** (along with a few others) stands on this board as a representative of Christianity as it should be, and seeing such a comment is extremely jarring. From my perspective, **Polycarp** did not by any means wish any harm; he was stating his initial irrational opinion. Still, the fact that it comes across so passive-agressively mean and also seems so out of line with **Sarah’s** comment is mystifying indeed.

I actually read this page before going back and reading the second half of page two, and I can’t possibly understand what set **Poly** off like that. I didn’t see **Sarah** gloating over Senator Kennedy’s looming demise, only questions and concerns regarding justice. I join **Ruby** and **Jodi** in wishing for his return and an amicable ending.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/137 "2008-05-22T02:09:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]  
Give him a break, please. It’s not easy turning the other cheek all the time. You get tired of wiping the shit off of yourself.  
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We are giving him a break. What he said deserves a much more extreme negative reaction, but everyone is so surprised that Polycarp would say something that mean-spirited and awful that we’re just waiting for him to post that someone stole his login ID and it wasn’t him, or some other rational explanation.

Bridget Burke’s nasty comment, however, surprised no one. 😉

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**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/138 "2008-05-22T02:37:31Z")

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**Polycarp** , I hope you’re OK. Rage like that sucks. It will fuck you over. For your sake, please try to make amends.  
On topic : Well, I can’t exactly cast any stones at **Shodan** for his posting on Kennedy, except to say that I don’t think that was the thread to post them in.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/139 "2008-05-22T03:06:56Z")

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[QUOTE=smiling bandit]  
Likewise. Condolences and warmest wishes.  
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Thanks to you and **Shayna** for the kind words. I’m fine. Having now seen both parents go though long bouts with cancers (Dad passed in '01), however, I just really, really hope I don’t have to go like that, and I’ve got no compelling reason to wish it on anyone else.

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/140 "2008-05-22T03:09:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
This sentiment is going to pass with nary a comment, except to accuse Sarahfeena of “flouncing off” after reading it? Unfuckingbelievable.  
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Let’s be very clear for a moment.

Do you think being raped is worse than dying?

PS: I’m sure Polycarp never wished that on her for even a moment, and of course no one would. He was making a point.

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