# Shodan, this is a disgusting attitude **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 20, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027 "2008-05-20T22:11:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/141 "2008-05-22T03:24:23Z")
[QUOTE=Ensign Edison] Let’s be very clear for a moment. Do you think being raped is worse than dying? [/quote] Oh, come on. > [@](#): > > PS: I’m sure Polycarp never wished that on her for even a moment, and of course no one would. He was making a point. I’m sure he did, because he himself said so. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/142 "2008-05-22T03:27:10Z")
[QUOTE=muttrox] Also I hope WeirdDave does give the list – I really am geniunely curious to know what he’s talking about. [/QUOTE] I don’t really feel like retracing Senator Kennedy’s entire legislative career bill by bill and arguing weather his position was “good” or “bad” on each issue, I don’t have the time nor the inclination. As far as the damage he’s done, off the top of my head: I’ve already listed immigration, which is enough to damn him all by itself, he’s also responsible for Title IX, which has lived far beyond it’s original sports related function and is eagerly being used to gut higher education today, he supported the Nuclear Weapons Freeze Campaign, which would have given the Soviets a permanent military advantage over the US, he’s continually pushed measures to expand welfare, extend benefits to illegal aliens, expanded affirmative action, continually tried to gut NSEERS, fought to curtail free speech amongst the serving military, supported an insane version of UHC and fought to keep individual citizens from being able to control their own retirement accounts. That’s just off the top of my head. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/143 "2008-05-22T04:30:28Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] You know what, **Sarah**? Now that I’ve thought about it, I don’t hope you get gang-raped and then have your erstwhile conservative friends saying that you asked for it. But that was my initial emotional reaction to your posts. [/QUOTE] Holy shit, that’s really ugly. How very unfortunate. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/144 "2008-05-22T04:59:25Z")
Title IX…That was about gender equality, right? > [@](#): > > **Sarahfeena** : It’s about repentancy and retribution. Who of us would be able to use a speech on television as a “get out of jail free” card? Is that justice, that the rich and powerful can do so, but the rest of the world has to answer for our “mistakes?” Oh, I see your game. At first you claimed that he didn’t even apologize or admit responsibility. When you are shown to be wrong, you claim that his apology is a “get out of jail free” card and that he did not have to answer for his mistakes like the rest of the world. But he has. Again and again and again and again. Because of people like you who sit in judgment and call him a _murderer_ when you know that he is a public figure and you can get away with it without charges of libel or slander being brought against you, he continues to pay for his mistakes. You ignore the fact that he _did_ have a concussion. You claim drunkenness. You want him to have been guilty of more than leaving the scene. Why? Is 46 years of service to his country in the United States Senate not enough? How do you know what remorse he has felt about her death all of these years? What would remorse look like? What would sorrow look like? How wrong is it to accuse someone of murder for an accident? How much money would have been enough? How many good works does he have to do for those less fortunate? You will not find one word of criticism from me on the SDMB about Laura Bush for the accident which took a life. I can’t imagine how much pain that must have caused her. I don’t have to hear forty years of continuous _mea culpa_ to have some compassion for her and not just for the family of the young man who died. That’s a nice pile of stones you have, my dear. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/145 "2008-05-22T05:22:20Z")
Still, gotta give points for hostility towards the privileges of the ruling class. Definite advancement in proletariat identification and revolutionary awareness. ---
**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/146 "2008-05-22T13:28:49Z")
Shodan… I think you are great! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/147 "2008-05-22T13:31:50Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Oh, come on. [/quote] Come on what? It’s okay to wish death on people but not rape? What the fuck kind of sense does that make? > [@](#): > > I’m sure he did, because he himself said so. Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you always this deficient at recognizing different rhetorical styles not meant to be taken literally? He was parodying the position that it’s okay to wish bad things on someone as long as it’s just your initial emotional response. Obviously, dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/148 "2008-05-22T13:35:46Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] Hey! No hijacking my Pitting! [/QUOTE] If you don’t want your Pitting hijacked, next time say something Pitworthy… ---
**Author:** ![muttrox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a8b319/32.png) [@muttrox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muttrox)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/149 "2008-05-22T13:54:34Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] I don’t really feel like retracing Senator Kennedy’s entire legislative career bill by bill and arguing weather his position was “good” or “bad” on each issue, I don’t have the time nor the inclination. As far as the damage he’s done, off the top of my head: I’ve already listed immigration, which is enough to damn him all by itself, he’s also responsible for Title IX, which has lived far beyond it’s original sports related function and is eagerly being used to gut higher education today, he supported the Nuclear Weapons Freeze Campaign, which would have given the Soviets a permanent military advantage over the US, he’s continually pushed measures to expand welfare, extend benefits to illegal aliens, expanded affirmative action, continually tried to gut NSEERS, fought to curtail free speech amongst the serving military, supported an insane version of UHC and fought to keep individual citizens from being able to control their own retirement accounts. That’s just off the top of my head. [/QUOTE] Thanks for writing back. Funny how many of these I think of as good things. I guess we wouldn’t need must political structure if everyone agreed on the right thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/150 "2008-05-22T13:54:53Z")
[QUOTE=Ensign Edison] Come on what? It’s okay to wish death on people but not rape? What the fuck kind of sense does that make? [/quote] Please show where Sarahfeena wished death on someone. I don’t see it anywhere. Offer a cite that would justify such a sentiment, even just rhetorically as you claim, or you really have no leg to stand on. > [@](#): > > Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you always this deficient at recognizing different rhetorical styles not meant to be taken literally? He was parodying the position that it’s okay to wish bad things on someone as long as it’s just your initial emotional response. Obviously, dipshit. Dipshit? Wow, you’re quite the rapier-like wit today, aren’t you? :rolleyes: He wasn’t parodying shit, because Sarahfeena never wished bad things on Ted Kennedy, and you’re dissembling if that’s the case you’re going to try to make. Unless all the people who have posted to this thread to say they found the comment inappropriate are dipshits and you, Bridget Burke, and Omegaman are the only ones who got it. Fine company to find yourself in, eh? You’re contorting yourself to make excuses for a comment that was inexcusable. Deriding my intelligence and hurling gratuitous insults at me for pointing that out does nothing to help Polycarp’s case. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/151 "2008-05-22T14:14:39Z")
[QUOTE=Club 33] I assume you hold the same contempt for Laura Bush. You are aware that she killed someone with an automobile, right? Drunk? No. Woefully negligent? You bet. Or is that different? Would you mind if people attacked her, should she have the misfortune of developing brain cancer? [/QUOTE] This is Shodanizing a pitt about Shodan. If you start a thread about Bush ,Shodan will say What about what Clinton did. It is not thread responsive and is diverting the thread. This is not about Laura or about Kennedys driving. It is about the total lack of empathy and humanity Shodan showed by enjoying the health problems of Kennedy. Classless and as base as it was.. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/152 "2008-05-22T14:30:03Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Please show where Sarahfeena wished death on someone. I don’t see it anywhere. Offer a cite that would justify such a sentiment, even just rhetorically as you claim, or you really have no leg to stand on. [/quote] Please show where I claimed she did. I said he was making a rhetorical point against a certain position, which the second half of his quote clearly demonstrates. I never claimed it was a position Sarahfeena was taking. > [@](#): > > Dipshit? Wow, you’re quite the rapier-like wit today, aren’t you? :rolleyes: Mocking someone else’s lack of wit by demonstrating your own with a rolleyes smiley. That’s comedy. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/153 "2008-05-22T14:33:05Z")
[QUOTE=gonzomax] This is Shodanizing a pitt about Shodan. [/QUOTE] Is this a new word I see? It’s pretty rough when you have to come up with new words. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/154 "2008-05-22T14:39:03Z")
[QUOTE=Ensign Edison] Please show where I claimed she did. I said he was making a rhetorical point against a certain position, which the second half of his quote clearly demonstrates. I never claimed it was a position Sarahfeena was taking. [/quote] You do see that if **Polycarp** was in fact “making a rhetorical point against a certain position” that was not even one **Sarahfeena** was taking, then his incredibly vicious comment directed AT **Sarahfeena** is even less excusable. You get that, right? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/155 "2008-05-22T14:46:18Z")
[QUOTE=ManiacMan] Shodan… I think you are great! 🙂 [/QUOTE] > [@Vinyl Turnip](#): > > If you don’t want your Pitting hijacked, next time say something Pitworthy… You people are completely missing the point! This is supposed to be all about calling me a goat-felcher and talking about my inadequately sized penis and things like that. Now somebody better start talking about my sexual inadequacies or I’m turning this Pitting right around and we are going home. And I mean it, mister! Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/156 "2008-05-22T15:06:53Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] You people are completely missing the point! This is supposed to be all about calling me a goat-felcher and talking about my inadequately sized penis and things like that. Now somebody better start talking about my sexual inadequacies or I’m turning this Pitting right around and we are going home. And I mean it, mister! Regards, Shodan [/QUOTE] Well unless you plan to air your fantasies about gangraping other posters (and well liked ones no less) in OJ style, I don’t think you can win this pitting back. The worst you do is threadshit sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/157 "2008-05-22T15:21:53Z")
[QUOTE=Ensign Edison] Please show where I claimed she did. I said he was making a rhetorical point against a certain position, which the second half of his quote clearly demonstrates. I never claimed it was a position Sarahfeena was taking. [/quote] The gang-rape comment was directed at Sarahfeena by name. If her position was not somehow worthy of such rhetoric, which it seems we agree on, then Polycarp’s comment is even less excusable. > [@](#): > > Mocking someone else’s lack of wit by demonstrating your own with a rolleyes smiley. That’s comedy. I’m not trying to be witty. I’m also not trying to insult you. Your defense of Polycarp’s comment just makes me roll my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/158 "2008-05-22T16:21:45Z")
Jeez, at least I waited until my guy was dead before [pissing on his grave](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=255290). ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/159 "2008-05-22T17:21:15Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] You people are completely missing the point! This is supposed to be all about(snip) talking about my inadequately sized penis and things like that. Now somebody better start talking about my sexual inadequacies or I’m turning this Pitting right around and we are going home. And I mean it, mister! Regards, Shodan [/QUOTE] Your wife posts here? _::rimshot::_ (there, is that better? 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-this-is-a-disgusting-attitude/450027/160 "2008-05-22T17:39:49Z")
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