# Shodan's Angels

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 21, 2007, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817 "2007-03-21T04:07:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/81 "2007-03-21T16:26:02Z")

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Your guardian angel is not amused.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/82 "2007-03-21T17:45:43Z")

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When did the Pit become the repository of so much **M** indless **P** ointless **S** tuff **I** deologues\* **M** ust **S** hare?

- (Not reserved for any particular participant of this “discussion.”)

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/83 "2007-03-21T17:52:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Princhester]  
Again, the idea that I was upset about the use of the word “angels” is one that seems a persistent meme in this thread, but is not the thrust of what I said. Read the whole of my first post in the original thread again. Particularly the last sentence. \*\*Shodan \*\* wrote a smug OP, with a cute religiously referenced title, to celebrate the departure of a prickly atheist. The point is not “angels”. The point is that **badchad** ’s departure doesn’t help the fundamentally childish and silly nature of superstition, be it a belief in a god or angels or pixies or whatever.  
[/QUOTE]

As a past-master at getting a bug up my ass over nothing, allow me to inform you, **Princhester** , that you have a bug in your ass over nothing.

Frankly, of the two interpretations given for your over-reaction to **Shodan’s** thread title – (a) you didn’t recognize the quote and saw literal angels where none flew; or (b) that religion is superstition, “fundamentally childish and silly” and you somehow felt compelled to make that original and never-before-posted argument right then, I personally prefer (a). Because if it’s (a), you were only mistaken and humorless, but if it’s (b) you were being a tiresome bore whose best contribution to the thread about **badchad’s** banning boiled down to (1) “yeah, well, your beliefs are a bunch of crap anyhow!” and (2) “Plus, I don’t like your thread title.”

So if the point of this thread is to clarify that you weren’t _mistaken_, you were simply tight-assed and tiresome, point made. Personally, I’m not sure that’s a clarification I’d be so intent on making that I’d open up another Pit thread to do it. In any event, the implication that you might not have recognized the quote is the piddliest of piddly shit and hardly worth getting your panties in a knot over. Go outside into the sunshine for awhile.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/84 "2007-03-21T17:53:46Z")

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So I’ve read **Shodan’s** thread, where the original comment was made, and this one. I still don’t get what **Princhester’s** got his ass on his shoulders about.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/85 "2007-03-21T18:02:09Z")

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I think this thread is Much Ado About Nothing.

Please, please - nobody tell him.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/86 "2007-03-21T18:06:10Z")

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Do some of you guys still not realize that **Princhester** is joking?

> [@Happy Lendervedder](#):
>
> Wait wait, are we being whooshed? Is this a parody thread?

AFAIK…yup

it is a tale  
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,  
Signifying nothing.

erm…

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**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/87 "2007-03-21T18:06:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Princhester]  
Again, the idea that I was upset about the use of the word “angels” is one that seems a persistent meme in this thread, but is not the thrust of what I said. Read the whole of my first post in the original thread again. Particularly the last sentence. \*\*Shodan \*\* wrote a smug OP, with a cute religiously referenced title, to celebrate the departure of a prickly atheist. The point is not “angels”. The point is that **badchad** ’s departure doesn’t help the fundamentally childish and silly nature of superstition, be it a belief in a god or angels or pixies or whatever.  
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Then why didn’t you say something like that instead of saying “There’s no such thing as angels!” I think that’s what’s tripping the rest of us up.

For the record, I’m assuming that the problem isn’t so much that you don’t like angels, it’s that you don’t like **Shodan**. Am I on the right track?

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/88 "2007-03-21T18:07:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
I think this thread is Much Ado About Nothing.

Please, please - nobody tell him.

Regards,  
Shodan  
[/QUOTE]  
That’s it. You do WIN. Thanks for the laughs. Good job.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/89 "2007-03-21T18:11:12Z")

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[QUOTE=enigm4tic]  
Do some of you guys still not realize that **Princhester** is joking?

[/QUOTE]

Man, I hope so, because there’s no other way any part of this thread makes the remotest sort of sense.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/90 "2007-03-21T18:12:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
Your guardian angel is not amused.  
[/QUOTE]  
“Hey God. Those wings? Not worth it.”

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/91 "2007-03-21T19:00:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
I think this thread is Much Ado About Nothing.

Please, please - nobody tell him.

Regards,  
Shodan  
[/QUOTE]

If our camelopardic sesquipedalolingual moderator should find it necessary to close this thread, he could always follow the pattern and post:

> [@](#):
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> Our revels now are ended…

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/92 "2007-03-21T19:57:15Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> If our camelopardic sesquipedalolingual moderator should find it necessary to close this thread, he could always follow the pattern and post:
> 
> > [@](#):
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> > Our revels now are ended…

“How long will a thread lie i’ the Pit ere it rot?”  
_Exit, pursued by a bear._

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/93 "2007-03-21T20:13:33Z")

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[Hijack] A really amazingly gorgeous song of the same title composed by John Tavener was used at [Lady Di’s funeral](http://www.internet-esq.com/diana/funeral.htm). I completely recommend giving it a listen.[/Hijack]

(edit): by same title, I mean “May Flights of Angels Sing thee to thy Rest”, not “Shodan’s Angels”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/94 "2007-03-21T21:24:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Princhester]  
Certainly anyone who mocks superstition on a rationalist message board dedicated to fighting ignorance should be assumed to be an ignoramus unless you know them well.  
[/QUOTE]  
I for one refuse to mock you for your irrational and superstitious ignorance about faith in God.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/95 "2007-03-21T21:43:07Z")

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What’s in a name? That which we call an angel  
By any other word would remain as imaginary.  
Oh, that **Princhester** , what a li’l devil. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/96 "2007-03-21T21:49:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Princhester]  
Do you usually regard a post in a thread as an interruption? Or do you only view a post as an “interruption” when it is an inconvenient barb in what was otherwise enjoyable circle jerk?  
[/QUOTE]  
Ya gotta admit, a barb in a circle jerk is pretty much the definition of an unwanted guest.

Now a Barbarella, that’s a different story …

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**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/97 "2007-03-21T23:26:05Z")

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So, to recap:

I am supposed to believe in Princhester or hamsters, but not Shakespeare. But if I believe in Shakespeare, I must then believe in sea cucumbers. Therefore there are no angels.

PvH  
~S  
S\>cukes // ~A

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/98 "2007-03-22T06:04:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
I think this thread is Much Ado About Nothing.  
[/QUOTE]

**Shodan** , you’d better stop quoting Shakespeare. It’s full of… fictional characters!

Which are not real.

And which don’t exist.

And which are, you know, made up.

I mean, why would anyone over the age of five mention fictional Shakespearean characters in a serious context?

Your words are razors to my wounded heart…

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/99 "2007-03-22T07:15:58Z")

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I’m serious when I ask the following question, and I’d appreciate an answer to it: Has **Princhester** always been an obnoxious, arrogant cumstain and I just never paid enough attention to notice, or did he just pull a Pseudotriton?

Also, I feel the need to point out that there are no fucking angels. **Princhester** should really know better than to mention them in a thread title, where people might think he was being serious. I point this out because **Princhester** really needs his little balloon of smugness popped.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodans-angels/396817/100 "2007-03-22T09:23:09Z")

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Yup, Printy’s definitely got a touch of the salamanderitis. Hope it’s treatable. I’ve not noticed him being a giant jerk before now.

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