# Shooter at Planned Parenthood clinic

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 27, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751 "2015-11-27T19:46:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/21 "2015-11-27T21:53:46Z")

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Good point. Should have used my brain.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/22 "2015-11-27T22:20:47Z")

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So, as far as I can tell, killing babies is bad, but killing adults is okay.

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**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/23 "2015-11-27T22:27:56Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Confirmed 3 officers injured, unknown civilian injuries. (CSPD)

From [here](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/watch-live-gunman-wounds-four-cops-and-several-others-outside-planned-parenthood-clinic-in-colorado-springs/) : (at least) 5 civilians taken to hosital with injuries, 4 injured officers, and police are, as of about 30 minutes ago that is, still rescuing persons inside the buidling/clinic.

Wishing a prolonged painful death upon shooter seems wrong, but what a friggin’ coward. I hope that its only ‘injuries’ and not deaths so far…crossing fingers for the good guys…

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/24 "2015-11-27T22:31:22Z")

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> [@Ionizer](#):
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> From [here](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/watch-live-gunman-wounds-four-cops-and-several-others-outside-planned-parenthood-clinic-in-colorado-springs/) : (at least) 5 civilians taken to hosital with injuries, 4 injured officers, and police are, as of about 30 minutes ago that is, still rescuing persons inside the buidling/clinic.
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> Wishing a prolonged painful death upon shooter seems wrong, but what a friggin’ coward. I hope that its only ‘injuries’ and not deaths so far…crossing fingers for the good guys…

They still don’t know how many of the people remaining in the building are injured.

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**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/25 "2015-11-27T23:04:23Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> They still don’t know how many of the people remaining in the building are injured.

Very true. That’s why I put in the (at least) bit. Shooter just might’ve already done more, unfortunately. Ain’t over yet, afaik.

I hold out hope, of course, that its not even worse.

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**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/26 "2015-11-27T23:29:16Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Some people say Hillary is sure to be indicted for it.

Top headline tomorrow for sure!

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/27 "2015-11-27T23:48:11Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> So, as far as I can tell, killing babies is bad, but killing adults is okay.

It is part of the twisted philosophy that some Christian terrorists follow.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/28 "2015-11-27T23:54:27Z")

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New developments. Waiting for reports to hit the news before saying more.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/29 "2015-11-27T23:55:55Z")

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Okay, the news is reporting it now. The suspect has surrendered and is in custody.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/30 "2015-11-27T23:57:10Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Okay, the news is reporting it now. The suspect has surrendered and is in custody.

He claimed to have been alone.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/31 "2015-11-27T23:57:49Z")

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Yep. the police are looking for possible IEDs on the premises.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/32 "2015-11-28T00:08:37Z")

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Likely to come across a few IUDs perhaps.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/33 "2015-11-28T00:14:52Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Likely to come across a few IUDs perhaps.

So to speak.

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**Author:** ![txtumbleweed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@txtumbleweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/txtumbleweed)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/34 "2015-11-28T00:24:40Z")

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That was an almost entirely useless press conference they just had. I get that nobody really has much in the way of details to offer, but there were a lot of folks hustling for camera time just to say that they knew nothing.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/35 "2015-11-28T00:29:12Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> It is part of the twisted philosophy that some Christian terrorists follow.

If this does turn out to be a Christian person, determined to shut down this clinic:

I wonder if it would be OK for someone to demand, DEMAND, that ALL Christians immediately and unreservedly apologize for him, since his terrorist activities so clearly represent their Christian faith?

I, for one, would disagree with this proposition, since I would assume that this terrorist person did not represent the true meaning of Christianity, and it would be ABSURD to expect Christians to apologize for his acts (which they obviously would not agree with)

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/36 "2015-11-28T00:31:48Z")

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BBC just showed that press conference live too. I suppose they felt they had to say something to the public.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/37 "2015-11-28T00:41:57Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> If this does turn out to be a Christian person, determined to shut down this clinic:
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> I wonder if it would be OK for someone to demand, DEMAND, that ALL Christians immediately and unreservedly apologize for him, since his terrorist activities so clearly represent their Christian faith?

Good luck getting the media or officials to even publicly \*admit \*that it was in fact terrorism. Attacks like this get labeled a “shooting” or “incident”, not terrorism.

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**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/38 "2015-11-28T01:01:22Z")

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CNN’s live FBI guest just called this act: “any violence in the aim of furthering political goals is terrorism”… 2 dead…

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**Author:** ![Old\_Time\_Hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@Old\_Time\_Hockey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Old_Time_Hockey)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/39 "2015-11-28T01:03:23Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Good luck getting the media or officials to even publicly \*admit \*that it was in fact terrorism. Attacks like this get labeled a “shooting” or “incident”, not terrorism.

The first thing that sprang into my head this afternoon when I heard on the radio that an active shooter had barricaded himself in a Planned Parenthood office was that this is just the latest Republican Party inspired act of domestic terrorism. I doubt that my first impression was wrong. I cannot wait to hear how Faux News will spin this, followed by the squirming of the full roster of bigots running for nomination.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/40 "2015-11-28T01:12:19Z")

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> [@Old\_Time\_Hockey](#):
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> The first thing that sprang into my head this afternoon when I heard on the radio that an active shooter had barricaded himself in a Planned Parenthood office was that this is just the latest Republican Party inspired act of domestic terrorism. I doubt that my first impression was wrong. I cannot wait to hear how Faux News will spin this, followed by the squirming of the full roster of bigots running for nomination.

I took a look at Free Republic. They’re already claiming it was a false flag so Obama can grab guns and that there’s never been a case of right-wing terrorism in this country.

And that’s just scratching the surface.

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