# Shooter at Planned Parenthood clinic

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 27, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751 "2015-11-27T19:46:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/41 "2015-11-28T01:20:39Z")

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Here’s some spin from my local news page: “Ironic: This is the first mass shooting where the doctors killed more people than the gunman did at the scene of the crime.”

And so it begins.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/42 "2015-11-28T01:34:20Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> So, as far as I can tell, killing babies is bad, but killing adults is okay.

Actually, for a vocal segment of today’s Christianity, life is only sacred before it is born. Whatever horror befalls a baby after it is born is not their concern.

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/43 "2015-11-28T01:48:25Z")

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I hope it was not a Christian.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/44 "2015-11-28T01:55:57Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> I hope it was not a Christian.

You should have more concern for the cop [who died](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/11/27/reports-active-shooter-barricaded-planned-parenthood-office-colo/76455300/).

ETA: [and a civilian.](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/261393-suspect-in-custody-after-planned-parenthood-shooting)

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/45 "2015-11-28T01:57:39Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You should have more concern for the cop [who died](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/11/27/reports-active-shooter-barricaded-planned-parenthood-office-colo/76455300/).

I do. I feel very bad.

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**Author:** ![Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_is_the_new_Analog)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/46 "2015-11-28T02:21:35Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> ETA: [and a civilian.](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/261393-suspect-in-custody-after-planned-parenthood-shooting)

Your link has been updated to say one cop and two civilians killed, with at least 8 others injured.  
Very sad.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/47 "2015-11-28T02:40:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> They’re already claiming it was a false flag so Obama can grab guns…

Well, I’m still waiting for him to START grabbing guns. That’s why I voted for the fucker!

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/48 "2015-11-28T03:07:05Z")

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Christian extremists, gun nuts, whatever. They’re all terrorists, ‘cause they’re killin’ for a cause.

Folks, you really need to start dealing seriously with your extreme religious right hate mongers, ditch that 2nd, and put in some reasonable gun control, if you want to catch up with the developed world.

In other words, start recognize and deal with teh cultural crazy.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/49 "2015-11-28T03:17:26Z")

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I wonder if this nutjob watched those heavily edited undercover planned parenthood video clips where they tried to make it seem like they were selling baby body parts in a profit scheme, which multiple investigations debunked any illegal actions were taking place. I think the last I read one cop, and a few civilians were dead, and multiple injuries. Sort of makes you wonder about the motives of the film makers, did they just want to cut government funding or were they hoping this kind of thing would happen?

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/50 "2015-11-28T03:57:06Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Folks, you really need to start dealing seriously with your extreme religious right hate mongers, ditch that 2nd, and put in some reasonable gun control, if you want to catch up with the developed world.
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> In other words, start recognize and deal with teh cultural crazy.

That’s hilarious, you act like they are an easily handled minority rather than in control of most of the country. None of the things you suggest are in any way possible for the next half century.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/51 "2015-11-28T04:02:19Z")

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> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> Here’s some spin from my local news page: “Ironic: This is the first mass shooting where the doctors killed more people than the gunman did at the scene of the crime.”
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> And so it begins.

I sure hope that was some troll making a stupid comment.

Most Planned Parenthood clinics don’t do abortions anyway. Does anyone know if this one does, or did?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/52 "2015-11-28T04:08:34Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> That’s hilarious, you act like they are an easily handled minority rather than in control of most of the country. None of the things you suggest are in any way possible for the next half century.

First step is to get the right wing to use the phrases “Christian extremists” and “radical Christianity.”

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/53 "2015-11-28T04:43:23Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> First step is to get the right wing to use the phrases “Christian extremists” and “radical Christianity.”

Are you taking bets on that happening?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/54 "2015-11-28T04:48:58Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Well, I’m still waiting for him to START grabbing guns. That’s why I voted for the fucker!

Too bad he just signed a bill authorizing the military to sell used guns to the civilian populace…

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/55 "2015-11-28T04:49:04Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Are you taking bets on that happening?

Since the odds are a million to one, I can afford a dollar. 😃

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/56 "2015-11-28T06:56:50Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> > [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> > Here’s some spin from my local news page: “Ironic: This is the first mass shooting where the doctors killed more people than the gunman did at the scene of the crime.”
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> > And so it begins.
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> I sure hope that was some troll making a stupid comment.
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> Most Planned Parenthood clinics don’t do abortions anyway. Does anyone know if this one does, or did?

Most reports I’ve seen that mention the subject say “abortion services” (one of the early reports stated that while the clinic provided abortion referrals, it did not actually perform the procedure). On the other hand, a headline and article from Reuters — via MSN — refer to it as an “abortion clinic.” Draw your own conclusions.

(Actually, to people like some of my relatives it makes no difference: the receptionist who supplies the name of an abortion provider is just as culpable as that provider, and deserves to die as well.)

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/57 "2015-11-28T10:28:38Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Folks, you really need to start dealing seriously with your extreme religious right hate mongers, ditch that 2nd, and put in some reasonable gun control, if you want to catch up with the developed world.

Good luck with that! The pro-gun filth always reminds me of those yahoos in the 19th century who railed against mandatory school attendance for children.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/58 "2015-11-28T10:56:01Z")

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Everyone is afraid of Muslim terrorists, but stuff like this is a lot more common than jihadi attacks. (At least in the us)

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/59 "2015-11-28T12:07:02Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Most Planned Parenthood clinics don’t do abortions anyway. Does anyone know if this one does, or did?

The article I quoted yesterday said that the Pullman clinic provided abortion referrals but didn’t do abortions at the site. Not that it makes the least bit of difference.

Article about recent string of arson attacks on Planned Parenthood Clinic -

> **[Abortion Clinics Are Burning, But No One Seems to Care](https://www.vice.com/en/article/abortion-clinics-are-burning-but-no-one-seems-to-care/)**
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> In the past four months, anti-abortion extremists have allegedly set four Planned Parenthood locations on fire. Activists want to know: Why are we still allowing this violence?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/60 "2015-11-28T15:40:52Z")

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How soon before someone blames this on “legal recreational marijuana.” Of course, the real reason is the radical pro-life movement. How pro-life is killing cops?

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