# Shooter at Planned Parenthood clinic **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 27, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751 "2015-11-27T19:46:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/61 "2015-11-28T15:52:53Z")
And the GOP candidates are [strangely silent.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/28/3726108/presidential-candidates-colorado-shooting/) ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/62 "2015-11-28T16:29:42Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > And the GOP candidates are [strangely silent.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/28/3726108/presidential-candidates-colorado-shooting/) It’s possible they are learning. Not likely, but possible. ---
**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/63 "2015-11-28T16:30:45Z")
Its depressing that another mass shooting didn’t surprise me, but an operating Planned Parenthood office in Colorado springs did. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/64 "2015-11-28T16:33:07Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > And the GOP candidates are [strangely silent.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/28/3726108/presidential-candidates-colorado-shooting/) I’m sure they all uttered a simultaneous “Oh… _shit_” under their breaths, though. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/65 "2015-11-28T16:45:05Z")
Anti-abortionist are trying to pretend that it was a bank robbery gone bad, even though the entire incident took place at the clinic. They’re trying to blame the Liberal Media for making this about Planned Parenthood, while simultaneously blaming PP for being baby murderers. I assume the GOP candidates are waiting until they can figure out how to offer condolences for the police officer while condemning the people who were there at PP, just going about their day. [http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/11/28/3726130/planned-parenthood-bank-robbery/](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/11/28/3726130/planned-parenthood-bank-robbery/) > [@](#): > > Abortion opponents, meanwhile, have been eager to downplay the shooting — rushing to say that the violence didn’t occur inside an abortion clinic at all. > > Initially, when police officers were involved in a stand-off with Dear and information about the event was murky, early reports from Fox News quoted a witness who suggested that the first shots were fired from a bank. The anti-abortion website LifeNews picked up that story, spurring the bank robbery narrative. > > \ > > Though it does remain unclear whether Dear was attempting to specifically target the Colorado Springs abortion clinic, it’s not true that Planned Parenthood supporters are overreacting to an incident that happened at a bank. Police officers have confirmed that “the entire incident took place at the Planned Parenthood clinic.” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/66 "2015-11-28T17:13:20Z")
I just saw the mugshot. Looks like Robert Lewis Deer-In-The-Headlights. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/67 "2015-11-28T17:14:09Z")
Well, it’s been not quite 24 hours since this happened. Why are the Christian leaders not apologizing and taking responsibility for this act of White Christian Terrorism? Hmmm? Where are the Christian leaders condemning this terrorist act? Even though we don’t have all the facts yet? (sarcasm) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/68 "2015-11-28T17:14:26Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > And the GOP candidates are [strangely silent.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/28/3726108/presidential-candidates-colorado-shooting/) Cruz finally [responded.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/presidential-candidates-planned-parenthood-shooting--2) > [@](#): > > Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who is running for the Republican 2016 nomination, tweeted his reaction Saturday morning. > > ``` > Praying for the loved ones of those killed, those injured & first responders who bravely got the situation under control in Colorado Springs > > — Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) November 28, 2015 > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/69 "2015-11-28T17:17:50Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Cruz finally [responded.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/presidential-candidates-planned-parenthood-shooting--2) Some of the [tweets in response.](https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/670621554095493122) > [@](#): > > Michaela Watkins ‏@michaelaWat 1h1 hour ago > > @tedcruz @ANNELAMOTT\*\* that was yesterday. Did you just get Twitter?\*\* > 1 retweet 11 likes > > ``` > View other replies > Show more > > Dr Geuse MD PhD Esq ‏@nifkinjuice 2h2 hours ago > > ``` > > \*\* @tedcruz what will you do about christian extremist terrorism\*\* > 7 retweets 67 likes > > ``` > View other replies > Show more > > Dylan Lanning ‏@DylanLanning 2h2 hours ago > > ``` > > \*\* @tedcruz congrats on being the first GOP candidate to acknowledge it, 20 hours later \*\* > 1 retweet 9 likes > > Tonya Gomez-Niang ‏@TonyaGomezNiang 2h2 hours ago Gilbert, AZ > > @DylanLanning **@tedcruz but still no mention of #PlannedParenthood or even condemning the actions.** > 0 retweets 5 likes > Dylan Lanning ‏@DylanLanning 2h2 hours ago > > @TonyaGomezNiang **@tedcruz can’t risk offending anyone who might sympathize with the shooter** > 1 retweet 6 likes > Tonya Gomez-Niang ‏@TonyaGomezNiang 2h2 hours ago > > @DylanLanning **@tedcruz nothing says pro-life like shooting at people.** > 2 retweets 3 likes > > ``` > TenaciousEye ‏@TenaciousEye 2h2 hours ago > > @tedcruz > **How 'bout you stop supporting people who encourage this sort of thing**? > 1 retweet 28 likes > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/70 "2015-11-28T17:30:23Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Some of the [tweets in response.](https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/670621554095493122) > > > [@](#): > > > > @TonyaGomezNiang @tedcruz can’t risk offending anyone who might sympathize with the shooter [And they’re out there](http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2015/11/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-planned-parenthood-shooter/). ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/71 "2015-11-28T17:43:00Z")
> [@yanceylebeef](#): > > Its depressing that another mass shooting didn’t surprise me, but an operating Planned Parenthood office in Colorado springs did. Prosperity theology: when God rewards His true adherents the wherewithal to fly their knocked-up daughters to one of those dreadful blue patches on the map. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/72 "2015-11-28T18:18:12Z")
So far, court records show him to be a peeping tom with a history of cruelty to animals. Something must have caused him to escalate. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/73 "2015-11-28T19:00:09Z")
While the anti-abortion protestors are usually out at our local clinic on Saturday, today they are totally absent. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/74 "2015-11-28T19:01:12Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > While the anti-abortion protestors are usually out at our local clinic on Saturday, today they are totally absent. Perhaps they have a degree of shame after all? ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Time\_Hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@Old\_Time\_Hockey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Old_Time_Hockey)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/75 "2015-11-28T19:10:26Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > So far, court records show him to be a peeping tom with a history of cruelty to animals. Something must have caused him to escalate. A pervert and a sadist. But he’s already a hero for the religious right. I’m waiting to hear about his church affiliation. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/76 "2015-11-28T19:13:23Z")
I haven’t seen anything about his religious beliefs, or even if he has any. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/77 "2015-11-28T19:13:41Z")
Amazing that the police were able to take that shithead in custody rather than killing him on the spot. What are the odds he’d’ve survived this encounter without an instant death penalty if he were black? ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/78 "2015-11-28T19:24:37Z")
I believe in the life of the unborn. I am a man. However, the issue of abortion may determine the balance of power in the 2016 elections. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/79 "2015-11-28T20:03:10Z")
He sounds like the Unabomber. ☹ > **[Planned Parenthood 'killer' never expressed political views](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3337420/Pictured-trench-coat-gunman-59-killed-three-including-hero-cop-injured-nine-opening-fire-Planned-Parenthood-clinic.html)** > > Robert Dear, 57, moved from North Carolina to Colorado and set up home in an area where people 'like to be by themselves'. But he would have meals at a local cafe, where he 'was very pleasant ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751/80 "2015-11-28T20:07:31Z")
I think it’s a little off base calling this sort of thing Christian terrorism, at least as some kind of counter talking point to Muslim terrorism. It’s just so single issue. Maybe if they bombed some random cafes until abortion was outlawed I could see it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooter-at-planned-parenthood-clinic/738751.md?page=5)