# Shooting at a Maryland Newspaper

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 28, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947 "2018-06-28T19:48:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/21 "2018-06-28T23:28:31Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I don’t think he was calling me disgusting. At least I hope not.

I think that was a whoosh about various Republicans calling for civility while Trump, Yiannopolous, and others are explicitly calling for violence against those they disagree with.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/22 "2018-06-28T23:31:04Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I don’t think he was calling me disgusting. At least I hope not.

No, he wasn’t. It was directed at Milo I believe. **Bayard** was mocking the “liberals should stay civil” discourse we’ve been hearing.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/23 "2018-06-28T23:31:37Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> No, he wasn’t. It was directed at Milo I believe. **Bayard** was mocking the “liberals should stay civil” discourse we’ve been hearing.

Yes.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/24 "2018-06-28T23:33:39Z")

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Well, if it was a white guy that rules out terrorism I suppose. Perhaps it was patriotism. Alternative fact fake news pussy grabbin patriotism. Perhaps.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/25 "2018-06-28T23:38:40Z")

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bobot:

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> Well, if it was a white guy that rules out terrorism I suppose.

What color was the skin of the Boston Marathon bombers?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/26 "2018-06-28T23:43:39Z")

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I give up. White? Without looking it up, can you spell their names? They were called terrorists because they were not Americans. But I got ya, they were white guys. So while we’re asking questions, was this attack terrorism?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/27 "2018-06-28T23:44:03Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> bobot:
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> What color was the skin of the Boston Marathon bombers?

Yeah, but they were Muslims, so they were honorary colored folk.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/28 "2018-06-28T23:44:18Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> What color was the skin of the Boston Marathon bombers?

A scary shade of Muslim.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/29 "2018-06-28T23:57:23Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think that was a whoosh about various Republicans calling for civility while Trump, Yiannopolous, and others are explicitly calling for violence against those they disagree with.

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> No, he wasn’t. It was directed at Milo I believe. **Bayard** was mocking the “liberals should stay civil” discourse we’ve been hearing.

Yeah. Sorry, snark was probably not really appropriate for a breaking news thread.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/30 "2018-06-29T00:14:58Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> CNN is reporting that the suspect appeared to have altered his fingerprints.

The police spokesman just said he has no knowledge of this, and does not know where this story came. He also said the story about facial recognition being used is also unfounded.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/31 "2018-06-29T00:35:19Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The police spokesman just said he has no knowledge of this, and does not know where this story came. He also said the story about facial recognition being used is also unfounded.

Yep I just heard that too. Sorry to spread misinformation.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/32 "2018-06-29T00:46:36Z")

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bobot:

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> Without looking it up, can you spell their names?

I remember one was Dzokhar Tsarnaev, don’t recall his brother’s name off-hand.

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> So while we’re asking questions, was this attack terrorism?

No idea, but the color of the attacker’s skin doesn’t rule it out.

jayjay:

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> Yeah, but they were Muslims, so they were honorary colored folk.

and Fear Itself:

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> A scary shade of Muslim.

This is not information that one could have determined based on their skin color alone, and the skin color of this Maryland shooter does not tell us what his religion (or other hostile ideology, if it was ideological) was. The information we have on hand does not preclude its having been terrorism is all I’m saying.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/33 "2018-06-29T00:56:03Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> This is not information that one could have determined based on their skin color alone, and the skin color of this Maryland shooter does not tell us what his religion (or other hostile ideology, if it was ideological) was. The information we have on hand does not preclude its having been terrorism is all I’m saying.

I’m not sure you understood the irony intended in those answers.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/34 "2018-06-29T00:56:28Z")

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His brother was Whitey.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/35 "2018-06-29T01:04:07Z")

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I can hear CNN yapping behind me saying the motivation was a defamation lawsuit against the paper that got thrown out of court.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/36 "2018-06-29T01:04:55Z")

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cmkeller, you are getting whooshed. They are satirizing Fox style “news” outlets that hyperventilate over Muslim terrorists but move on from right wing extremist ones.

Now, Maybe the shooter is a disgruntled orthodox Jew, but that seems pretty rare from my POV. A cakeless gay fiancee is only slightly more likely. But yes, the skin tone doesn’t really tell us anything for real. Poe’s Law is getting too strong in here, someone open a window!

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/37 "2018-06-29T02:06:50Z")

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One of the victims was Rob Hiaasen, brother of columnist and novelist Carl Hiaasen.

[http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/anne-arundel/bs-md-rob-hiaasen-20180628-story.html](http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/anne-arundel/bs-md-rob-hiaasen-20180628-story.html)

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/38 "2018-06-29T02:30:06Z")

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I guess I missed that, then. I should have used my sarcasm detector. (Yeah, that’s a REAL useful invention!)

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/39 "2018-06-29T02:38:51Z")

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Five dead, a newspaper that, according to the media bias fact-check site has a slight to moderate liberal bias

We can make all kinds of suppositions based on our own biases, but it is pointless for the moment.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-a-maryland-newspaper/816947/40 "2018-06-29T03:17:49Z")

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It’s all over the news now it was a longstanding personal beef, nothing political. Nothing to do with Mad Milo or Kerosene Maxine. Just another mentally off middle aged white guy with a gun and a grudge.

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