# Shooting at CT Elementary School

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 14, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044 "2012-12-14T17:55:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/61 "2012-12-14T19:38:54Z")

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And the mistaken photo publishing and linking to Facebook profiles of guys who are not the shooter but happen to have the same name as the shooter has begun. Hooray.

“It’s a 24 hour news cycle, Jack. We don’t have time to do it right anymore.” -Avery Jessup, _30 Rock_

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/62 "2012-12-14T19:45:32Z")

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> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#):
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> Just watching the BBC. They are quoting one student as saying that their teacher got them all to hide in a storeroom and locked the door. They heard a man banging and kicking at the door and shouting to let him in. The teacher told them all to stay quiet and he went away. A short time later the police came and told them it was safe. Good teacher, good drill.

Jeez. I wonder if the kids were scared? I’d fucking never sleep again. Ever.

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**Author:** ![sir\_viks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sir\_viks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sir_viks)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/63 "2012-12-14T19:49:21Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> And the mistaken photo publishing and linking to Facebook profiles of guys who are not the shooter but happen to have the same name as the shooter has begun. Hooray.
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> “It’s a 24 hour news cycle, Jack. We don’t have time to do it right anymore.” -Avery Jessup, _30 Rock_

I never thought of this, but I did a quick Google search on the reported name. There are people posting various picture of A Ryan Lanza, not necessarily THE Ryan Lanza, asking “Is this him?!?”

Unbelievable.

Here was a quick find:

> **[Ryan Lanza ID’d As Newtown School Shooting Gunman - Inquisitr News](https://www.inquisitr.com/ryan-lanza-idd-as-newtown-school-shooting-gunman)**
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> IMPORTANT UPDATE, 4:38 PM EST : An earlier version of this post identified Ryan Lanza, 24, as the suspected and deceased Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter.

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**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/64 "2012-12-14T19:55:05Z")

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Ok people. Is it too much to ask for people not to shoot up schools?

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**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/65 "2012-12-14T19:56:59Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> Not looking for a fight here, but does anyone else think that the saturation coverage of the situation currently inundating the major networks and news sites is not a good idea?
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> I understand that it’s all still raw and heartrendingly immediate for the families, and people want information, but the shooter is dead, and by giving his psychopathic actions literally hundreds (in total, by tonight) or even (eventually) thousands of hours of coverage, doesn’t this send the wrong message for other would-be attention seekers on the edge, possibly looking for their time in the spotlight?

I feel the same way. It just raises the bar for the next incident.

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**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/66 "2012-12-14T20:00:04Z")

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Just heard police found a body at the home of the shooter.  
Yikes.  
How’s that for a plot twist.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/67 "2012-12-14T20:00:12Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> No.

Maybe I wasn’t clear, but the question was of whether, in a moderator’s opinion, that was OK to say in this thread. Get back to me when you become a SDMB moderator.

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/68 "2012-12-14T20:01:25Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> This seems like a bad idea. Panic hits. I forget. Does red mean stay inside the building or does red mean the bad guy is in the building? Cut the silly code words and just tell people what to DO.

But you don’t want to tell the gunman what the kids are doing.

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**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/69 "2012-12-14T20:01:31Z")

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> [@robert\_columbia](#):
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> Ok people. Is it too much to ask for people not to shoot up schools?

I second the motion.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/70 "2012-12-14T20:01:40Z")

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> [@Gedd](#):
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> Just heard police found a body at the home of the shooter.  
> Yikes.  
> How’s that for a plot twist.

Where did you hear it?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/71 "2012-12-14T20:03:07Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Where did you hear it?

It’s been discussed earlier in the thread. The guy apparently killed his father at home, went to the school where his mother works, and shot up her classroom and killed her. The second suspect who was arrested is apparently the shooter’s younger brother.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/72 "2012-12-14T20:04:24Z")

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> [@LurkerInNJ](#):
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> I feel the same way. It just raises the bar for the next incident.

Maybe true, but there’s no way on earth to stop it. I would guess almost every one of us is actively looking for latest updates, and we’re allegedly smarter than average. And Og knows what kind of whacky conspiracy theories would crop up if news agencies decided to “lock down” their coverage.

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/73 "2012-12-14T20:04:43Z")

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So if his target was his mother, why in the world did he kill all those children and other innocent people?

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**Author:** ![Sally\_Mander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@Sally\_Mander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sally_Mander)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/74 "2012-12-14T20:05:08Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Where did you hear it?

I mentioned it back in post 52… NBC said a body had been found in the shooter’s home, but at the time would not (or could not) say if it was his mother or father, but implied it was a parent. Obviously, it was not his mother, as they are now saying his mother was killed at the school. I haven’t heard anymore updates, other than “a family member” was found shot to death in the family home.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/75 "2012-12-14T20:06:23Z")

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> [@April\_R](#):
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> So if his target was his mother, why in the world did he kill all those children and other innocent people?

Because I’m sure he’s mentally ill. Rationality and logic don’t apply.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/76 "2012-12-14T20:06:36Z")

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> [@April\_R](#):
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> So if his target was his mother, why in the world did he kill all those children and other innocent people?

Well it might have something to do with the fact that he was utterly crazy.

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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/77 "2012-12-14T20:08:52Z")

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> [@April\_R](#):
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> So if his target was his mother, why in the world did he kill all those children and other innocent people?

Cause he’s crazy.

Everyone will be talking about guns, but we should be talking about mental health resources.

If its what I think it is, I feel bad for the shooter too.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_I\_Am](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@Sam\_I\_Am](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_I_Am)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/78 "2012-12-14T20:11:36Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Well it might have something to do with the fact that he was utterly crazy.

Utterly crazy and murderous, given the right situation, I can kind of understand. But the point at which young kindergarten students stop looking like innocents to be protected, and instead look like targets, goes far beyond that. It boggles the mind.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/79 "2012-12-14T20:14:16Z")

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> [@April\_R](#):
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> So if his target was his mother, why in the world did he kill all those children and other innocent people?

This is a total guess, but maybe it will end up being some kind of bizarre jealousy thing. Maybe he hated them because Mommy was paying more attention to them than to him.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-ct-elementary-school/644044/80 "2012-12-14T20:15:20Z")

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> [@Sally\_Mander](#):
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> I mentioned it back in post 52… NBC said a body had been found in the shooter’s home, but at the time would not (or could not) say if it was his mother or father, but implied it was a parent. Obviously, it was not his mother, as they are now saying his mother was killed at the school. I haven’t heard anymore updates, other than “a family member” was found shot to death in the family home.

CNN reporter was very precise to say that LE didn’t say the mother was among the dead at school, but found dead.

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