# Shooting at LAX Terminal 3

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 1, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858 "2013-11-01T17:24:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/1 "2013-11-01T17:24:16Z")

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Apparently some guy walked up to the security checkpoint with a rifle and opened fire. Two people in custody. Reports of injuries but no deaths. The airport is currently under lockdown.

> **[TSA Employee Killed, 2 Other Agents Hurt in LAX Shooting](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/los-angeles-airport-lax-shooting/1963779/)**
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> A gunman armed with “hundreds of rounds” of ammunition opened fire at Los Angeles International Airport Friday, killing a security worker and spraying a terminal with bullets as travelers sought cover, authorities said. The alleged shooter was...

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/2 "2013-11-01T17:54:47Z")

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Can’t wait for the always fascinating and informative discussion on type and caliber of weapon used.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/3 "2013-11-01T18:00:01Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Can’t wait for the always fascinating and informative discussion on type and caliber of weapon used.

It was an AR-12 in .57LR, made by Glock. It’s an all ceramic gun that can’t be detected by the TSA.

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**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/4 "2013-11-01T18:07:34Z")

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Reports coming in now that one TSA agent is dead, another wounded.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/5 "2013-11-01T18:36:21Z")

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Heard on NPR that the shooter is dead too.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/6 "2013-11-01T18:48:12Z")

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The LA Times says that the shooter is a TSA employee. So it’s basically a workplace shooting, not terrorism. Going to make a mess of commercial flights, probably worldwide, though.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/7 "2013-11-01T18:53:10Z")

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Who frisks the friskers?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/8 "2013-11-01T19:10:23Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Heard on NPR that the shooter is dead too.

Suspect is alive (though wounded) and in custody. Described as a US citizen in his early 20s.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/9 "2013-11-01T19:20:51Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Suspect is alive (though wounded) and in custody. Described as a US citizen in his early 20s.

I’m reading from several sources that the suspect is dead.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/10 "2013-11-01T20:00:09Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> I’m reading from several sources that the suspect is dead.

NBC News says critical condition, article last updated 3 minutes ago.

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> A man pulled an assault rifle from a bag and shot his way through security at Los Angeles International Airport on Friday, killing one Transportation Security Administration worker, wounding as many as three others and sending terrified travelers diving for cover and fleeing onto the tarmac, authorities and witnesses said.
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> The gunman, described only as a 23-year-old U.S. citizen, was shot by law enforcement and taken into custody. He was in critical condition.
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> Federal officials told NBC News it was unclear whether the gunman was targeting the TSA or was trying to shoot his way through to get further into the airport.  
> One witness said the shooter, who calmly walking through the terminal with his weapon, approached him with a one-word question.
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> “All he asked was, ‘TSA?’” Leon Saryan told MSNBC.

Also doesn’t sound like a workplace shooting from that description.

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**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/11 "2013-11-01T20:09:46Z")

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LA Times says the shooter was a ticketed passenger, not TSA employee.

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**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/12 "2013-11-01T20:16:13Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Can’t wait for the always fascinating and informative discussion on type and caliber of weapon used.

Unless he’s an Arab …

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**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/13 "2013-11-01T20:23:15Z")

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A theory - from a limited amount of info it seems TSA was targeted for the sole reason being a TSA officer which makes it plausible that the shooter may have been influenced by some of the TV and radio personalities known for their fierce opposition to TSA like, say, Rush Limbaugh. Similar pattern to what has been debated re: shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

Therefore, wouldn’t it make sens for Obama to send a drone and take care of it so we can prevent terrorism? He’s done it before, no? Or, this is different; i.e. freedom of speech and such?

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/14 "2013-11-01T20:27:06Z")

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Remember, the white zone is for loading and unloading weapons only.  
Too soon?

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/15 "2013-11-01T20:48:22Z")

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> [@newcomer](#):
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> A theory - from a limited amount of info it seems TSA was targeted for the sole reason being a TSA officer which makes it plausible that the shooter may have been influenced by some of the TV and radio personalities known for their fierce opposition to TSA like, say, Rush Limbaugh. Similar pattern to what has been debated re: shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.
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> Therefore, wouldn’t it make sens for Obama to send a drone and take care of it so we can prevent terrorism? He’s done it before, no? Or, this is different; i.e. freedom of speech and such?

Yes, that’s exactly how real life works. You are clearly sane.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/16 "2013-11-01T20:55:04Z")

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> [@newcomer](#):
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> Unless he’s an Arab …

wat?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/17 "2013-11-01T21:04:57Z")

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[From NBC News:](http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/01/21277650-gunman-opens-fire-at-lax-killing-tsa-worker-and-wounding-others?lite)

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> The gunman, identified by law-enforcement officials as 23-year-old Paul Anthony Ciancia, was shot by law enforcement and taken into custody in critical condition. The motive is not clear but it’s believed he had anti-government views based on written materials he was carrying, the officials said.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/18 "2013-11-01T21:43:05Z")

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> [@newcomer](#):
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> A theory - from a limited amount of info it seems TSA was targeted for the sole reason being a TSA officer which makes it plausible that the shooter may have been influenced by some of the TV and radio personalities known for their fierce opposition to TSA like, say, Rush Limbaugh. Similar pattern to what has been debated re: shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.
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> Therefore, wouldn’t it make sens for Obama to send a drone and take care of it so we can prevent terrorism? He’s done it before, no? Or, this is different; i.e. freedom of speech and such?

I have no idea what you’re talking about – but MPSIMS threads on events of this sort (and, damn, what a world we live in that we have a standard way of handling threads on “events of this sort”) are about events as they unfolding. If you have a political point to make, take it to GD or the Pit.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/19 "2013-11-01T22:12:25Z")

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The Mythbusters are on the case. Well, sort of. Grant and Tory got a good scare at the airport. They need to start sending Buster on these travel assignments. 😉

> **[LAX Airport Shooting: Mythbusters' Grant Imahara, Tory Belleci "Safe"](https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/lax-airport-shooting-mythbusters-grant-imahara-tory-belleci-safe-after-being-inside-terminal-2013111/)**
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> Mythbusters stars Grant Imahara and Tory Belleci have issued a statement that they are "safe" after the LAX Airport shooting on Nov. 1

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-lax-terminal-3/672858/20 "2013-11-01T22:38:21Z")

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they found anti-gov, anti-TSA documents on him.

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