# Shooting at Santa Fe, Texas High School

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 18, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400 "2018-05-18T15:04:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/1 "2018-05-18T15:04:43Z")

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[KHOU](http://www.khou.com/) is reporting 8 fatalities.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/2 "2018-05-18T15:37:39Z")

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And the [assholes](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/watch-trump-supporter-shows-texas-high-school-shooting-gun/)are already there.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/3 "2018-05-18T15:46:26Z")

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From **Silenus’s** link:

> [@](#):
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> “We don’t need this crap,” the man continued.

That’s true, but we have this crap. What are we going to do about it? More thoughts and prayers? Or like the asshole in the story, “offer support,” and a “God bless y’all” (whatever the hell that means)?

The ap isn’t confirming the number of fatalities at this time:

> **[The Latest: Affidavit: Gunman didn't shoot students he liked](https://apnews.com/article/shootings-north-america-us-news-ap-top-news-football-2aa445e284244dee8616c12a7bb54d81)**
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> 11:05 p.m.

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> 10:30 a.m.
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> Officials say at least three people are being treated for gunshot wounds and two people have been detained following a shooting at a high school near Houston.
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> Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez tweeted Friday that one person is in custody and a second person has been detained following the Friday morning shooting at Santa Fe High School.
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> Gonzalez says a police officer was injured but the extent of the officer’s injuries is unknown.
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> Gonzalez says there are “multiple casualties” but didn’t elaborate. Houston-area media have cited unnamed law enforcement officials saying there were fatalities. The Associated Press has not been able to confirm the reports.

ETA: Here’s the Harris County Sherif’s twitter account if anyone is interested in getting information about the shooting directly from them.

[https://twitter.com/HCSOTexas?ref\_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author](https://twitter.com/HCSOTexas?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/4 "2018-05-18T15:59:08Z")

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[AP story here](https://apnews.com/2aa445e284244dee8616c12a7bb54d81/The-Latest:-Sheriff:-Pence,-Trump-respond-to-school-shooting):

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> The local sheriff says as many as 10 people may have been killed during a shooting at a high school near Houston, most of them students.
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> Harris County Sherriff Ed Gonzalez Harris County said there “could be 8 to 10 fatalities” from the shooting Friday morning at Santa Fe High School, about 30 miles (48 kilometers) southeast of Houston.
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> Gonzalez says the majority of the dead are students.
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> The sheriff says one person is in custody and a second person has been detained.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/5 "2018-05-18T16:05:07Z")

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We now have averaged a school shooting every 6.27 days this year.

We’re #1!

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**Author:** ![johnod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@johnod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnod)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/6 "2018-05-18T16:10:06Z")

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Ever wonder how many fewer of these things there would be, IF the media didn’t go out of their way,sensationalize the whole thing, as much as possible ?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/7 "2018-05-18T16:38:28Z")

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> [@johnod](#):
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> Ever wonder how many fewer of these things there would be, IF the media didn’t go out of their way,sensationalize the whole thing, as much as possible ?

Looks like you are from Canada. It seems like you have a lot less school shootings than the US. Is it because Canada doesn’t sensationalize them when they happen there? Does the sensationalizing of the US shootings not cross the border in the northern direction?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/8 "2018-05-18T16:39:20Z")

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> [@johnod](#):
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> Ever wonder how many fewer of these things there would be, IF the media didn’t go out of their way,sensationalize the whole thing, as much as possible ?

No.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/9 "2018-05-18T16:40:40Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> And the [assholes](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/watch-trump-supporter-shows-texas-high-school-shooting-gun/)are already there.

It’s Texas. It is tough to go to lunch without running into at least three assholes.

> [@johnod](#):
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> Ever wonder how many fewer of these things there would be, IF the media didn’t go out of their way,sensationalize the whole thing, as much as possible ?

While the unintentional glorification of mass shooters is a genuine problem, “the media” is not putting weapons in anyone’s hand, or defunding public health programs to deal with people who have violent mental illness problems, or in any other way directly contributing to the public mass shootings that occur in the United States at a rate more than an order of magnitude more frequency than any other developed nation in peacetime. And it isn’t as if the media in other nations do not give attention to shootings when they occur; they just don’t feel compelled to give equal time to an organization that belittles victims and whose ill-conceived solutions consist of insisting that more guns will somehow correct everything.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/10 "2018-05-18T16:44:27Z")

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Original Guardian headline just said “Eight dead in Santa Fe school shooting” (implying NM, where I live).

Not that it’s not awful anyway, but on your doorstep, families you might know, is another level.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/11 "2018-05-18T16:48:04Z")

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Thoughts and prayers all around.

> [@Tom Waits](#):
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> Ship is sinking  
> The ship is sinking  
> The ship is sinking  
> There’s leak, there’s a leak, in the boiler room  
> The poor, the lame, the blind  
> Who are the ones that we kept in charge?  
> Killers, thieves, and lawyers  
> God’s away, God’s away  
> God’s away on business  
> Business

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/12 "2018-05-18T16:51:20Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Original Guardian headline just said “Eight dead in Santa Fe school shooting” (implying NM, where I live).
> 
> Not that it’s not awful anyway, but on your doorstep, families you might know, is another level.

The school I work at feeds into a Santa Fe High School. I have colleagues and former students there. I was sick to my stomach when I first saw the headline.

And now I feel incredibly guilty that I’m relieved that a different school is the one that got attacked.

I’m gonna need to drink after work.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/13 "2018-05-18T16:53:27Z")

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I thought it was pretty easy to get permission to carry a gun around in Texas. Why weren’t there 100s of “good guys” putting a stop to the shooting?

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/14 "2018-05-18T16:58:58Z")

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Who cares. They’re all actors anyway.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/15 "2018-05-18T17:01:52Z")

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And that wraps it up for our household. Online school it is for the next year and a half.

Funny how trained international terrorists have a devil of a time getting at any aspect of the infrastructure, but half-witted teenagers can get tremendously lethal firepower into a high school seemingly at will. No point pretending anymore where our government’s interests lie.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/16 "2018-05-18T17:09:00Z")

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This is proof that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/17 "2018-05-18T17:15:14Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> This is proof that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent.

Not to derail the thread, but the problem with this is that you can’t tell what the crime level would be without the death penalty. This is like saying, “Mozart didn’t make my kid smarter; he listened to Mozart for years and his IQ is only 97.” Yes, but what if it would have been even lower if not for his Mozart exposure?

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/18 "2018-05-18T17:16:48Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Not to derail the thread, but the problem with this is that you can’t tell what the crime level would be without the death penalty. This is like saying, “Mozart didn’t make my kid smarter; he listened to Mozart for years and his IQ is only 97.” Yes, but what if it would have been even lower if not for his Mozart exposure?

To counter we could examine the instances of school shootings in countries where CP is banned. Except no such events spring to mind.

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**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/19 "2018-05-18T17:20:58Z")

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CNN just reported total 10 dead ( 9 students and 1 teacher.  
Also mentioned is that pipe bombs and/or pressure-cookers are being found. FUCK! A 17-yr student in custody. Legally ‘adult’, I bet.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-at-santa-fe-texas-high-school/814400/20 "2018-05-18T17:22:27Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> To counter we could examine the instances of school shootings in countries where CP is banned. Except no such events spring to mind.

Those countries have different people, different cultures, different media, different politics, different histories, different gun laws, and a thousand other variables that make it too complex to determine the difference that capital punishment makes.

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