# Shooting in DC, at Washington Navy Yard

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 16, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964 "2013-09-16T13:00:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/1 "2013-09-16T13:00:48Z")

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News story [here](http://thinkprogress.org/home/2013/09/16/2623651/shooting-navy-yard/). This is about a block from where I work, and I go to the Navy Yard several times a week for meetings/etc. I can see more than a dozen police cars and ambulances right outside the base entrance. Crazy.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/2 "2013-09-16T13:17:29Z")

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Damn. I used to work there too. That scene is on M Street SE, right?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/3 "2013-09-16T13:18:21Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> Damn. I used to work there too. That scene is on M Street SE, right?

Yes. Live news feed [here](http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/09/washington-navy-yard-shooting-injures-several-people-94074.html).

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/4 "2013-09-16T13:31:29Z")

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I’m hearing rumors that three people were shot (not sure of their condition), the guy has an AR-15, and that it happened outside the buildings. Let’s see how accurate the rumors are.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/5 "2013-09-16T13:35:44Z")

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So far I’ve heard that the shooter was in the building (bldg 197) with a shotgun. There was an early report of a victim near the Navy Yard Metro station (DC subway), but now I’m hearing that it was a heart attack, not a shooting victim.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/6 "2013-09-16T14:00:58Z")

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[MSNBC report](http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/16/20522196-gunman-opens-fire-at-navy-yard-in-washington-several-wounded-officials-say): 7 have been shot including 2 police officers. A separate report on the Washington Post says one police officer was wounded when he approached a room where a gunman was holed up. There’s rumors of a second gunman, too, but those aren’t published.

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**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/7 "2013-09-16T14:09:23Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Yes. Live news feed [here](http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/09/washington-navy-yard-shooting-injures-several-people-94074.html).

According to that article, it caused a ground stop at Reagan National Aiport. Ya know, just in case he manages to get out of the NAVSEA building, jump in the river, swim 1.5 miles downstream, and then start shooting airplanes out of the sky.

One can never be too safe.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/8 "2013-09-16T14:34:08Z")

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> [@Hermitian](#):
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> According to that article, it caused a ground stop at Reagan National Aiport. Ya know, just in case he manages to get out of the NAVSEA building, jump in the river, swim 1.5 miles downstream, and then start shooting airplanes out of the sky.
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> One can never be too safe.

Are you sufficiently qualified in security and public threats to offer a basis for your wise-guy sarcasm?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/9 "2013-09-16T14:41:08Z")

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Anybody is. Security over-reaction is the new normal in Patriot Amurkkka.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/10 "2013-09-16T14:44:58Z")

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I know people there.

Worried.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/11 "2013-09-16T14:46:21Z")

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Everyone, please back off the political pot-shots (sic). If you want to debate national attitudes toward security, start a thread in the appropriate forum.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/12 "2013-09-16T14:48:10Z")

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Aye-aye. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/13 "2013-09-16T14:58:17Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I know people there.
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> Worried.

Ditto and ditto.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/14 "2013-09-16T15:39:14Z")

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Yeah my sister used to work at the Dept. of Navy, first at the Pentagon and then was consolodated to the Navy Yard. She’s retired, but does consulting for them at the Navy Yard, but her contract was cut because of sequestration. We just got off the phone, she’s spoken to some of her former colleagues who are getting out of the building.

I hope no one else is hurt, I hope we keep this in perspective, I hope whoever did this is caught, I hope they still have tonight’s Nats/Braves game (which is at the Navy Yard Metro and for which I have tix), and I hope the Nats kick the Braves ass. In that order.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/15 "2013-09-16T16:01:32Z")

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Since some people here seem to know people there, I just saw the following numbers posted if you are looking for information about family and friends who work in the Navy Yard:

202-433-6151 or 202-433-9713

I got that from the local ABC News station.

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**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/16 "2013-09-16T16:07:14Z")

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[Here is WUSA the local CBS affiliate.](http://www.wusa9.com/)

Live video streaming is available, click on the link “Live Video” near the top of the page

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/17 "2013-09-16T16:16:31Z")

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Noon briefing. DC Police Chief saying they’re still searching for 2 other possible suspects.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/18 "2013-09-16T16:17:42Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I hope no one else is hurt, I hope we keep this in perspective, I hope whoever did this is caught, I hope they still have tonight’s Nats/Braves game (which is at the Navy Yard Metro and for which I have tix), and I hope the Nats kick the Braves ass. In that order.

Keeping perspective means letting a trivial game go on with thousands of people within two blocks of an incident like this? It would be foolish. A lockdown of one evening would seem to be prudent. We don’t know yet whether there’s something else in store. And four people are dead. this should get at least one evening’s respect. Fuck the game. As it is, traffic is going to be a nightmare for those leaving work today. The game crowds will make things worse.

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/19 "2013-09-16T16:32:35Z")

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> **[12 victims slain in Navy Yard shooting rampage; dead suspect ID’d | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/us/dc-navy-yard-gunshots/)**
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> Twelve people were killed Monday after at least one shooter opened fire in a rampage at a Navy yard in the nation’s capital; a suspect also was killed.

Video on webpage link

> [@](#):
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> Multiple fatalities in Navy Yard shooting; suspect dead, official says
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> (CNN) – A suspect is dead after a shooting at the Washington Navy Yard, a senior Navy official said Monday.
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> Conflicting reports emerged about whether there was another shooter. Ed Zeigler, director of public affairs for Naval District Washington, told CNN earlier Monday that two suspected shooters were “down,” but the senior Navy official could not confirm whether there was more than one gunman.
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> Multiple people were killed in the deadly shooting, Zeigler said, which sent police in SWAT team gear swarming to the scene.  
> Helicopters hovered overhead. In one chopper, there appeared to be a police sniper peering out, with a scope at the ready.
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> Earlier, authorities said a gunman dressed in all black fired shots inside the Navy Yard, injuring at least 10 people.
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> Witness: ‘He aimed his gun at us’ and fired
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> The injured included a Washington police officer who has been hospitalized, and a base security guard officer, said Metropolitan Police Department spokeswoman Saray Leon.
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> Three people, including the D.C. police officer, were admitted to MedStar Washington Hospital Center with multiple gunshot wounds. They are expected to survive, chief medical officer Janis Orlowski told reporters.
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> The incident started unfolding at 8:20 a.m. when several shots were fired inside the headquarters for Naval Sea Systems Command in southeast Washington.
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> The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives sent a team of about 20 special agents to the scene, a law enforcement official said. The team was the same group that helped apprehend Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the official said.
> 
> Police spokesman Chris Kelly earlier described the suspect as an adult male, about 6 feet tall with a bald head and medium complexion, dressed in a black top and black jeans.  
> …

Anyone have any other updates on this? I have friends in DC who work with the Navy and they aren’t even getting much intel on exactly what is going on.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-dc-at-washington-navy-yard/668964/20 "2013-09-16T16:40:34Z")

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> [@Hermitian](#):
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> According to that article, it caused a ground stop at Reagan National Aiport. Ya know, just in case he manages to get out of the NAVSEA building, jump in the river, swim 1.5 miles downstream, and then start shooting airplanes out of the sky.
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> One can never be too safe.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make? You don’t have to be standing on a runway in order to launch/shoot “something” at flying aircraft. It’s unknown how many shooters there are. It’s uncertain if there are explosives involved. It’s unknown if this is an attack coordinated with other possible locations. An “airport” for example or a baseball stadium.

I assume it will take the lame stream media (We’d Rather be First than Correct) at least 48 hrs before the public has a reasonably clear understanding of what actually happened.

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