# Shooting in Monterey Park Lunar New Year festival leaves at least 10 dead \[2023-01-21\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [January 22, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606 "2023-01-22T14:00:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606/21 "2023-01-23T12:54:40Z")
> **[Hero Describes Wrestling Pistol From Monterey Park Shooter](https://www.thedailybeast.com/monterey-park-shooting-hero-describes-wrestling-gun-from-huu-can-tran)** > > Brandon Tsay, 26, bravely confronted Huu Can Tran, 72, ending the carnage. ---
**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606/22 "2023-01-23T13:04:57Z")
Looks like he was a former “informal dance instructor” at the ballroom. People who knew him said he was short-tempered and paranoid. He had moved years ago to a senior citizen mobile home park in Hemet, but it looks like he decided to return and shoot up the dance hall boss and anyone else. I had just been wondering a week or two ago if dance halls and ballroom dancing were still around anywhere. It looks like they are - and in Asian communities. At least I haven’t seen or heard of any in other communities in decades. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606/23 "2023-01-24T07:49:34Z")
The reports I saw said that ballroom dancing was a popular activity for older Asians, and most of the victims reported on were older. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606/24 "2023-01-24T13:29:10Z")
> [@teelabrown](#): > > At least I haven’t seen or heard of any in other communities in decades. I know a lot of non-asian younger adults (college kids and up) who go ballroom dancing every Wednesday, and take lessons. It may not be as popular as it used to be, but it’s definitely still a thing people do, and not just in the Asian community. ---
**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606/25 "2023-01-24T16:56:11Z")
Really - I had no idea. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606/26 "2023-01-24T21:23:05Z")
Didn’t that guy who targeted Asian-owned nail salons strike in multiple locations himself? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606/27 "2023-01-24T21:23:59Z")
I prefer that people like this be taken alive, so they can at least tell us why. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606/28 "2023-01-25T15:45:59Z")
It’s interesting how we sometimes feel cheated when the killer kills himself too. It’s like we don’t get closure. Like nearwildheaven says, we don’t get to know their motivation. And from a darker perspective, we don’t get to “punish” them with a trial and execution. There’s no “vengeance,” however limited, that we can take comfort in. And it feels like some of these shooters know this and kill themselves for exactly that reason. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606/29 "2023-01-25T15:56:58Z")
Quite honestly, I prefer it when the killer gets zero attention and zero psychological analysis. Because the killer’s psychology is not the problem. There will always be people with major psychological problems. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606/30 "2023-01-25T16:01:04Z")
Yeah. I feel like people sometimes “break”. And breaking in a “lash out and attack people” is a fairly common thing. I don’t need to know exactly what led to it. And I don’t feel the need for vengeance, because I think of it in terms of people being morally and emotionally damaged more than I think of it in terms of people choosing evil. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-monterey-park-lunar-new-year-festival-leaves-at-least-10-dead-2023-01-21/978606.md?page=1)