# Shooting in Nova Scotia **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 19, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-nova-scotia/852146 "2020-04-19T22:37:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-nova-scotia/852146/61 "2020-04-25T14:01:15Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The carve-out for small calibre pistols is because there is apparently a very active competition community which specialises in .22 and .25 pistols. However, those small calibre pistols are very handy if you’re a crook, because they are so easily concealed, but pack enough of a punch to do a stick-up. > > When the Chretien government introduced the _Firearms Act_ back in 1995, they prohibited all small calibre pistols, which caused an ungodly row with the competition group. Frankly, individuals who spend gobs o’money to travel internationally to shoot a special small calibre of pistol aren’t likely to be using it to hold up a liquor store, so the compromise was to include the carve-out and tie it to the international regulatory body for that competition group. > > However, every time I read about the special carve-out, I remember the Doonesbury cartoon where Roland Burton Hedley III is interviewing Nancy Reagan about her .22 pistol that “Ronnie gave to me back when Hollywood was crawling with Communists”. She explains that it shoots “teeny-weeny lady-like bullets”. 😛 Especially bitterly ironic—and it had to be intended as such by Trudeau when he wrote the strip—considering Hinckley used a .22 revolver to nearly kill Reagan. I had no idea about 25-caliber pistols being used in competition. Pretty much every one I’ve ever heard of is quite tiny, made for deep concealment, and aren’t known for accuracy. Or reliability, durability, or any thing else indicating quality. They can be lethal, jokes about .25 ACP aside, and it was the caliber used by one of Stalin’s executioners during one of the documented largest killings done by one man in history, but most anything works when your victims can’t resist. Most .22 competition pistols, (and probably all, but you never know) have barrels longer than 100 mm, so that could be another way to distinguish them from the short barrelled, cheap handguns—like the one Hinckley used—that the legislation was designed to prohibit. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-nova-scotia/852146/62 "2020-04-25T15:29:19Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > So far as I know, we get all our dental accessories from our dentists. To elaborate: in the US it is usually the dentist and his staff who interact with the individual patient at the dental practice, and who in turn interact with the dental prosthetics lab, whether in-house at the same practice or external. The individual patient never sees or hears from the denturist, or at best thinks s/he is another of sundry classes of technician in the back room at the dental practice. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-nova-scotia/852146/63 "2020-04-25T15:59:01Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I think .32 not .25, since .22 and .32 are the Olympic calibers, arent they? Yes, typo on my part; the carve-out was for .32 calibre pistols, not .22s. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-nova-scotia/852146/64 "2020-04-28T15:22:38Z")
A few updates [Complexity of N.S. shooting investigation ‘without precedent,’ in Canada, expert says](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/nova-scotia-mass-shooting-investigation-1.5546587) > [@](#): > > Experts say one of the deadliest mass killings in modern Canadian history may become one of the most complex police investigations the country has ever seen. > > A little more than a week ago, a gunman went on a 13-hour rampage in rural Nova Scotia that covered 100 kilometres and killed 22 people. He burned down homes, wore an RCMP uniform and drove a mock-up police car during the ordeal. > > In total, the RCMP are sifting through 16 crime scenes, a colossal undertaking. > > “It is without precedent,” in Canada, said Michael Arntfield, a criminologist at Western University in London, Ont. > > “I mean, pick your variable, the scale of this tragedy and the number of victims. The distance covered, the duration of time, the impersonation of a police officer.” [Relatives, legal experts say N.S. should begin work on inquiry into mass killing](https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/relatives-legal-experts-say-n-s-should-begin-work-on-inquiry-into-mass-killing-1.4913636) > [@](#): > > HALIFAX – Nova Scotians struggling with the devastating aftermath of a mass shooting are looking for a commitment from the province’s leaders to set up a public inquiry to help answer a long list of unanswered questions. > > Nick Beaton, the husband of a continuing care assistant who was killed on her way to work during this month’s massacre, said Monday an inquiry is needed to examine a number of issues, including the way the RCMP communicates with the public during a mass shooting. > … > Beaton said he feels the RCMP’s upper management failed to communicate the extent of the threat by detailing it in a series of tweets, rather than an emergency alert that would have appeared on smartphones and television screens. > > But the issue of the emergency alert is just one of many arising from the rampage that resulted in 22 deaths in five communities over the weekend, Beaton said. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-nova-scotia/852146/65 "2020-04-28T16:01:04Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > …[Relatives, legal experts say N.S. should begin work on inquiry into mass killing](https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/relatives-legal-experts-say-n-s-should-begin-work-on-inquiry-into-mass-killing-1.4913636) From your second link: > [@](#): > > Police have said the attacker, Gabriel Wortman, had access to a handgun and long guns he didn’t have a licence for, including some weapons obtained in the United States, but they haven’t release details of how Wortman gained access to them. I wonder why details haven’t been released? BATFE seems like they would have had more than enough time by now to figure out where he bought the weapons. Given this FAQ at the BATFE’s own website, it’s likely he purchased the weapons in violation of United States law, and perhaps whichever state’s law too where he made the purchase. > [@](#): > > **May a nonimmigrant alien who has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa and who falls within an exception, purchase a firearm or ammunition in the United States?** > > A nonimmigrant alien without residency in any state may not purchase and take possession of a firearm. A nonimmigrant alien may only purchase a firearm through a licensee where the licensee arranges to have the firearm directly exported. A nonimmigrant alien who falls within an exception may, however, purchase and take possession of ammunition. > > A nonimmigrant alien who has established residency in a state may purchase and take possession of a firearm from an unlicensed person, provided the buyer and seller are residents of the same state, and no other state or local law prohibits the transaction. A nonimmigrant alien with residency in a state may purchase a firearm from a licensee, provided the sale complies with all applicable laws and regulations. > > 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(9); 27 CFR 478.29a [https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonimmigrant-alien-who-has-been-admitted-united-states-under-nonimmigrant-visa-and](https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonimmigrant-alien-who-has-been-admitted-united-states-under-nonimmigrant-visa-and) I am wondering if he did a face to face sale in a state, and presented the non FFL holder some fake identification claiming residency in that state? Or the seller may just have not given a shit, and law enforcement is energetically looking for that seller. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-nova-scotia/852146/66 "2020-04-28T19:31:55Z")
Is there any information on exactly how many law enforcement officials were searching for the perp during the murder spree? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-in-nova-scotia/852146.md?page=3)