Welcome to the club.
Probably more than a year.
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Really? Is that all that happened? The cops learned that this man was selling loose cigarettes and decided to execute him in the street? There was absolutely nothing else that happened in the middle?
I only ask because I could swear that every single news article published on the event including those completely sympathetic to Garner say that there was some other stuff that happened between “selling loose sentences” and “your sentence is death, I AM THE LAW”, and I’d like to know if there’s some secret information you have access to that says the entire news media, mainstream and alternative, is engaged in a conspiracy to cover up the truth.
bolding is mine.
Has there been any public release of what the partner initially said happened? If the partner made a truthful accounting of events then he certainly should not be charged. If he tried to cover it up then there may be an accessory after the fact type of charge that would apply.
Federal law does not cover murder except in certain specific cases (e.g. victim is federal employee and was killed in course of his duties).
The feds can bring charges related to civil rights violations, but they need to show a set of facts that can be hard to establish.
Well, I can certainly see how that is the loss. But I think you have misused ironically when you meant sarcastically. Here is the distinction: when you identify the problem as the headache and stain on the community’s reputation as the problem you are being sarcastic. That it even occurs to you that the reputational stain on the lovely community is noise amidst the signal of summary execution in public and on camera of this man is ironic.
This is a video more disturbing than President Kennedy being assassinated. There is no other hand to be on.
Well, looking it up on Wiki shows:
NYPD officers approached Garner on suspicion of selling “loosies” (single cigarettes) from packs without tax stamps. After Garner told the police that he was tired of being harassed and that he was not selling cigarettes, the officers went to arrest Garner. When officer Daniel Pantaleo took Garner’s wrist behind his back, Garner swatted his arms away. Pantaleo then put his arm around Garner’s neck and pulled him backwards and down onto the ground. After Pantaleo removed his arm from Garner’s neck, he pushed Garner’s face into the ground while four officers moved to restrain Garner, who repeated “I can’t breathe” eleven times while lying facedown on the sidewalk.
I can’t really see a whole lot going on betwixt Garner swatting Panteleo’s arms away, and Panteleo choking the bejasus out of Garner.
If you have further information, you should have come forward at the inquiry.
Another unarmed black man killed by a white officer. With unreleased video. This was also in South Carolina, although being shot for being black happens in every state.
I think this point needs to be iterated. In a tight working community like cops have their is an unspoken rule that you don’t “snitch” on each other. This only makes it worse and also makes it harder for upstanding cops to blow the whistle. If you punish them for not blowing the whistle you might get a change in the culture.
How is it different from the transit cop a long way above shooting a prisoner in the back? I don’t believe that this is a regional problem so much as a police problem, and a too many criminals problem. Cops think everyone is a criminal, because they deal with so many criminals.
It may interest you to know that the officer involved was born and raised in New Jersey.
Oh, is that part of America too? Because this happens all over this country and has. I drove one of my roommates to work today (this roomie is black), and we talked about the dozens of times he was stopped by the police for walking home while black. Followed slowly by the police for walking home while black, etc.
We are one fucked up racist country.
True enough. As long as we are not scapegoating particular states, as your earlier post seemed to suggest.
South Carolina is plenty racist itself too. It gets no pass. Neither does any other state with members sitting in Congress. The racism in this country, and the way it is applied to men like Mr. Scott is genocidal. As are the incarceration rates of black men in American and the harassment and disenfranchisement of non-white Americans and impoverishment of all Americans. As a nation we have looked into the mirror, seen our inner Sean Hannity, and told ourselves that not only are we the best people in the world, but that anyone who objects to the slaughter and incarceration of black men hates the principles our country was founded on.
When it comes to the content of our character as a nation, we are not Martin Luther King, Jr., we are Rupert Murdoch. Treyvon Martin and Walter Scott lay dead, like thousands of others, and we cluck at George Zimmerman and Michael Slager and say that they are aberrations. They are not. It is who we, as an enabling people are, and which we embrace with enthusiasm. We are the ones doing killing, imprisoning and disenfranchising. Slager did this on duty and with a badge. Zimmerman was acquitted by a corrupt legal and court system where Treyvon Martin never had a chance for justice.
I’ve read the criticism that Hannah Arendt was taken in by Eichmann when she described him as banal evil. It’s weak argument. Arendt was dead on correct. The moral failure of each of us, especially those of us posing here as thoughtful people (that is, all of us on this message board) to condemn the repulsive treatment of non-white males as sub-human and silently assent to the de facto treatment of white males as a master race makes us all so morally corrupt that we enable and set the table for this genocide. http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutgenocide/genocideconvention.html
Troubled Americans, fearful of a rush to judgement, and angry that Officer Slager may be railroaded simply because of evidence, are flocking to contribute to his defense and constitutional rights.
Ars Technica : Crowdfunding campaign for SC police officer suspended, another appears
Slager’s arrest followed the release of a YouTube video on Tuesday that showed him firing a gun eight times at a man named Walter Scott who was running in the opposite direction. Shortly after the murder charges were confirmed, a “Support Michael Slager” Facebook page was created. It linked to a GoFundMe campaign that asked for donations for Slager’s legal defense fund, but by Wednesday, the campaign had been taken down.
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By that morning, the heretofore unidentified operators of the Support Michael Slager campaign had launched an identical legal defense fundraising campaign at IndieGoGo. That site’s terms do not forbid such fundraising campaigns, though the rules use vague language to forbid “scams,” and the current campaign could fall into that category due to a lack of hard information that answers how any raised money will be used or where it will be sent.
Some Americans are as mad as hell and don’t want to take it any more. Who wants to live in a country where one can’t shoot a man in the back eight times ?
I don’t want to live in a country where some crappy Indiana Pizza place gets $843, 387 for saying they’re not going to cater weddings with their crappy Pizza.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/04/03/fundraiser-for-memories-pizza-in-indiana-concludes-heres-how-much-was-ultimately-raised/
(sorry if that was off-topic - I know there’s other threads about bad Indiana pizza)
Off topic and also factually incorrect. Your own cite says they got the money because they had to shut the place down due to threats of violence against them. Is that the kind of country you want to live in?
There’s a lot that’s off topic, here.
Let’s stay focused on what punishment Slager may be on the hook for should he be found guilty.
Focus, dude. Focus.
Were those the reasons, or were they executed for failure to demonstrate sufficient submissiveness?
Yes, and as body cams become standard equipment the opportunity to use “color of authority” will become tightly constrained. This is a good thing, for cops too - the thugs among them, and there are many, just make life harder for the good, conscientious ones, as well as for the people they neither respect nor serve.
This is GD now, right? That specific question has been answered. The topic is far broader than that.