# Shooting Outside U.S. Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291 "2013-10-03T18:56:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/61 "2013-10-04T14:47:49Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > She was, apparently, also suffering from [schizophrenia](http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/04/politics/u-s-capitol-shooting/). She’d believed Obama had been stalking her for almost a year. Before jumping to conclusions, I suggest we wait for confirmation that he wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/62 "2013-10-04T14:52:17Z")
I just feel there is a whole lot left to know before we can draw a conclusion. What exactly happened to cause the woman to be a terror suspect? How exactly did the shooting come about? What specific actions provoked it? I still don’t know and until I do I won’t know if the cop(s) who shot an unarmed woman in front of her toddler is a goon who over-reacted or just a guy doing his job. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/63 "2013-10-04T15:38:03Z")
> [@Doug\_K](#): > > And the answer to woodystockbirdybird’s question is yes. When a man is acting “crazy” people do tend to assume it has to do with a woman. > > To quote Dougas Adams, “I’ve just had an unhappy love affair and I don’t see why anyone else should have a good time.” > > To quote the less eloquent masses, “Wow, somebody’s not gettin’ any!” Bullshit. When that guy shot up the Navy yard, I didn’t read a single damn speculation about him coming out of a bad relationship. Nor did I for the Sandy Hook shooter or any of the vast number of male psychopathic acts of violence. You’re talking out your ass. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/64 "2013-10-04T15:41:01Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Before jumping to conclusions, I suggest we wait for confirmation that he wasn’t. Exactly. He hasn’t denied it, has he? What is he hiding? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/65 "2013-10-04T15:46:13Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Bullshit. When that guy shot up the Navy yard, I didn’t read a single damn speculation about him coming out of a bad relationship. Nor did I for the Sandy Hook shooter or any of the vast number of male psychopathic acts of violence. You’re talking out your ass. I assume, then, that you read every single bit of speculation, both in print and on the internet, and watched every single talking head on broadcast TV, cable TV and the internet regarding the Navy yard shooter? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/66 "2013-10-04T15:49:28Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I assume, then, that you read every single bit of speculation, both in print and on the internet, and watched every single talking head on broadcast TV, cable TV and the internet regarding the Navy yard shooter? > > :dubious: Yeah, I did. You fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/67 "2013-10-04T15:54:39Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > I just feel there is a whole lot left to know before we can draw a conclusion. What exactly happened to cause the woman to be a terror suspect? How exactly did the shooting come about? What specific actions provoked it? I still don’t know and until I do I won’t know if the cop(s) who shot an unarmed woman in front of her toddler is a goon who over-reacted or just a guy doing his job. There’s a video that has been out for a while now - shows the initial encounter with police after she crashed through one barricade and was stopped at a second. It shows her stopped, then reversing and smashing a police car, then going forward and nearly running down two officers, then speeding away. I understand that a police chase led to the capitol building. You should watch this if you can. It really did not seem to me that the police were overreacting. It was not just one cop involved here. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/68 "2013-10-04T15:54:43Z")
To elaborate on why you’re a fucking idiot: Just because some mouth-breather on Twitter makes a stupid assumption doesn’t excuse anyone else’s sexist twaddle. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/69 "2013-10-04T15:54:48Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Yeah, I did. You fucking idiot. u mad bro? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/70 "2013-10-04T15:55:42Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Yeah, I did. You fucking idiot. I would guess here that your testosterone levels are too high. Have you seen a doctor about this unwarranted aggression? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/71 "2013-10-04T18:10:34Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Wonder how long it’ll be before someone starts blaming this incident on antidepressant drugs and the first lawsuit gets filed. Well, the first part has already materialized from [Natural News’ Mike Adams](http://www.naturalnews.com/042345_Miriam_Carey_Capitol_Hill_shooting_psychiatric_drugs.html##ixzz2gmHFl5OC), who is also blaming (you had to see this coming) Obamacare. Mikey sounds like **BobLibDem** in that he is characterizing the incident as “the assassination of a young female mental patient with bad driving habits”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![drpepper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@drpepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drpepper)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/72 "2013-10-05T00:01:45Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Before jumping to conclusions, I suggest we wait for confirmation that he wasn’t. I _never_ post in Pit threads, but I must extend a “Bravo” to this comment. Cracked me up. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/73 "2013-10-05T00:15:35Z")
I’m usually the first person to offer criticism of the police around here but I feel fairly confident in saying this shooting was probably justified. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291/74 "2013-10-05T00:58:24Z")
Given her depression, I wonder if this was a case of suicide-by-cop. That could explain her putting her child in harm’s way. (attempted murder-suicide-by-cop?) That’s assuming there was any logic behind her actions rather than just a complete mental break from reality. Tragic, but given what we know right now, I can’t fault the police. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shooting-outside-u-s-capitol/670291.md?page=3)