# Shop class no no’s Shorts, long hair and giant prosthetic boobs?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 18, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773 "2022-09-18T21:00:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/181 "2022-09-22T13:32:21Z")
Then the headline would have been “man dresses in giant fake boobs”, not “trans woman dresses in giant fake boobs”. Or “white man wears blackface”, in your example.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2022, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/182 "2022-09-22T13:37:32Z")
That’s what an _accurate_ headline would have said. Given the dearth of information about what’s actually going on, and given the extreme transphobia that’s plaguing conservative circles, it’s difficult to know what’s actually going on in this case.
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/183 "2022-09-22T13:39:36Z")
Which is why I am judging the reporting (“another ‘let’s make fun of the freak’ story”) and not making any attempt to judge the underlying events. All I feel we really know about that is that we are missing some important context, if what’s we’ve seen is even true.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/184 "2022-09-22T13:40:18Z")
Absolutely agreed.
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### Author:  [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/185 "2022-09-23T19:02:57Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> When I first saw that picture, I saw it as a misogynistic act by the man themselves, that he was dressing in a way to deliberately make female characteristics look disgusting by exaggerating them. Basically _mocking_ women.
Do you always make wild, baseless assumptions off of little evidence?
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/186 "2022-09-23T19:05:56Z")
> [@Mr.E](#):
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> Do you always make wild, baseless assumptions off of little evidence?
It seems no wilder than the OP. Of all the transwomen I’ve met or even read about or seen online, I’ve never encountered any who would wear an outfit like that. I’ve encountered plenty of cismen who’ve worn large fake breasts in a way that came across as misogynistic. There’s always a first time for a transwoman wearing that kind of outfit, but in my experience it’d be a first.
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### Author:  [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/187 "2022-09-23T20:03:05Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> > > Trans or not, it’s at least a bit ridiculous for a teacher to show up to work wearing fake breasts the size of compact cars with huge fake nipples poking out her shirt. Come on.
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> > Let’s say that it is. Why would that be a reason to be outraged? I mean, sure, if you think it’s fake, you could get mad about that. Or if you think it’s someone attacking trans people, that would be a reason to get upset.
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> When I first saw that picture, I saw it as a misogynistic act by the man themselves, that he was dressing in a way to deliberately make female characteristics look disgusting by exaggerating them. Basically _mocking_ women.
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> And I felt sorry for any girls subjected to viewing his performance. Actually, that might be the reason behind it: has there been an influx of girls into the sacred male precincts of shop classes, and this guy is trying to shame them by making it look ludicrous for them to be there?
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> If that were the true motive, couldn’t his appearance fall under hate crimes? Suppose a white teacher decided to dress up in full-on minstrel show black face? With protruding lips and a ludicrously large afro wig? Would _that_ be allowed as acceptable professional attire, even if he claimed he felt internally that he was actually black and was just transitioning races?
Yes definitely making a mockery of women and fetishizing large breasts at the same time while hoping for some male attention from High schoolers? Shop teacher has gone too far in playing out her fantasy life in class.
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### Author:  [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/188 "2022-09-23T20:16:55Z")
I really don’t want to give the Daily Mail more clicks, but did anyone else notice the discrepancy between the headline “High school defends transgender teacher” and the description “has been pictured online **taking classes** …”? Is this a shop teacher or is this a teacher _taking_ shop classes?
Oh, and all you people saying “is this appropriate to be seen by middle school aged kids?” , it’s a high school. I don’t think it’s appropriate for _any_ school, but lowering the age of the students shows your bias.
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/189 "2022-09-23T20:29:59Z")
Nice work bigots. Give yourselves a pat on the back.
> **[Oakville's Trafalgar High School target of 'anonymous' bomb threat](https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/oakville-high-school-target-of-anonymous-bomb-threat)**
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> The school has been in spotlight due to transgender teacher wearing large prosthetic breasts in class
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### Author:  [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/190 "2022-09-23T20:41:31Z")
> [@Mr.E](#):
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> > [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> > When I first saw that picture, I saw it as a misogynistic act by the man themselves, that he was dressing in a way to deliberately make female characteristics look disgusting by exaggerating them. Basically _mocking_ women.
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> Do you always make wild, baseless assumptions off of little evidence?
Your saddle is a bit to high up their, pardner. It’s normal to have an automatic reaction to an image before you read further. And this isn’t that wild. As pointed out above, the boobs do look absurd, like the kind that are comically exaggerated. I’d expect those kind to be sold in a comedy store, rather than a gender affirming store.
If someone was doing this to mock trans people, it wouldn’t look any different. And it would make sense that TERFS would be spreading stuff to mock trans people.
Honestly, knowing it’s legit makes me worry she couldn’t afford anything better. Even the wig is horrible quality. I very much suspect she would prefer not to look like a caricature, but can’t afford it.
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### Author:  [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/191 "2022-09-23T22:08:15Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> I really don’t want to give the Daily Mail more clicks, but did anyone else notice the discrepancy between the headline “High school defends transgender teacher” and the description “has been pictured online **taking classes** …”? Is this a shop teacher or is this a teacher _taking_ shop classes?
It has been repeatedly confirmed it’s a shop teacher, by the school, school board, and local contacts. That’s just a typo.
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### Author:  [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/192 "2022-09-24T01:14:06Z")
Cancer survivor here. There are many ways to construct inexpensive breast prostheses. Cheapest and pretty effective is rolled up socks or a foam form pinned in a bra. Knitted Knockers has patterns online for easy to knit foobs. Mastectomy bras have pockets for holding foam or silicone forms. Whatever this person’s means or motivation, “I could only get party boobs” isn’t accurate.
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/193 "2022-09-24T02:36:28Z")
Yeah. I’m just a woman who has played with the displays at the bra shop. But i can report that a bra with pockets and a pair of silicone inserts is not financially out of reach of a full time public school teacher. I’ve recommended those to friends who were questioning their gender, as an affordable (and totally safe, reversible) way to experiment with presenting as a women.
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### Author:  [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2022, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/194 "2022-09-24T03:45:47Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Yeah. I’m just a woman who has played with the displays at the bra shop. But i can report that a bra with pockets and a pair of silicone inserts is not financially out of reach of a full time public school teacher.
A high school teacher in Halton would make an average of around $70,000 USD.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2022, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/195 "2022-09-24T03:50:54Z")
> [@BigT](#):
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> Honestly, knowing it’s legit
Do we know that this is a photograph of a person whose sincere gender identity is female, and that this is a sincere gender expression?
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### Author:  [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2022, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/196 "2022-09-24T03:57:36Z")
> [@susan](#):
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> Cancer survivor here. There are many ways to construct inexpensive breast prostheses
In a previous job I have occasionally come across used, donated breast forms. It would be a matter of luck and timing to come across one for sale, let alone a pair, but those might be a cheap alternative for someone looking for them.
As for the story, I have to agree with an earlier poster that it seems like a joke or a dare because of the extreme and cartoonish look it makes. Otherwise, I think the dress is fairly inappropriate for a work place.
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### Author:  [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2022, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/197 "2022-09-24T06:34:12Z")
> [@RickJay](#):
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> It has been repeatedly confirmed it’s a shop teacher, by the school, school board, and local contacts. That’s just a typo.
I watched the video, and the person trying to operate that very normal miter saw almost seemed dumbfounded by it. And then they reached under the blade to grab the cut off. Not a good shop teacher for other reasons.
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### Author:  [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2022, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/198 "2022-09-24T06:47:25Z")
The more I read about this situation, the less convinced I am that it’s about a legit trans woman shop teacher.
[Video](https://twitter.com/hippojuicefilm/status/1570173548571893761)
As **wguy123** said, that’s terrible shop safety demonstrated even accounting for the massive mammaries.
I’d postulate the school board supporting her is just them engaging in CYA in case it is legitimate.
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2022, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/199 "2022-09-24T11:54:21Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> > Honestly, knowing it’s legit
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> Do we know that this is a photograph of a person whose sincere gender identity is female, and that this is a sincere gender expression?
No.
We know we’ve been presented with a very strange story. So strange that we can be pretty certain we are missing some important information, and so strange that it’s likely some of what we’ve been told is wrong.
I think it’s a mistake to discuss the story as presented. Because the only thing we really know about that is that we are being misled. The real story here is about the reporting. How did this weird set of “facts” make it into the news and why.
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### Author:  [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/200 "2022-09-24T12:09:06Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> How did this weird set of “facts” make it into the news and why.
Well, that’s an easy one. Transphobic bigots put the story out there, a transphobic rag spread it arouund, and our local transphobic bigots posted it here.
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