# Shop class no no’s Shorts, long hair and giant prosthetic boobs? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 18, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773 "2022-09-18T21:00:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/421 "2022-10-04T13:47:36Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Because it is attempting to manufacture a controversy about photos that may or may not be genuine, The story has been picked up and confirmed by pretty much every media outlet in Canada, across the entire political spectrum. The Toronto Star isn’t some right wing tabloid. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/422 "2022-10-04T13:54:00Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The story has been picked up and confirmed by pretty much every media outlet in Canada, across the entire political spectrum. Where? Can you give links? > [@RickJay](#): > > The Toronto Star isn’t some right wing tabloid. It literally is a right-leaning tabloid, though not like the National Enquirer or anything (they do have real journalism mixed with their sensationalist stuff). But I didn’t see them independently confirming it. People have asked many times for **something** and there hasn’t been shit. If you’re sitting on anything please share. I can’t find it, and I’ve tried. Help us out please! I have no dog in this fight (as to whether it’s true or not, I do care about the messaging), I just want to know the truth. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/423 "2022-10-04T13:58:37Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It literally is a right-leaning tabloid, though not like the National Enquirer or anything (they do have real journalism mixed with their sensationalist stuff). But I didn’t see them independently confirming it. Please pay more attention. You are presumably referring to the Toronto Sun. The Toronto Star is a broadsheet, not a tabloid, and is openly liberal. > **['It's just wrong': Protesters react to Oakville transgender teacher's...](https://www.insidehalton.com/news/its-just-wrong-protesters-react-to-oakville-transgender-teachers-inappropriate-dress/article_e76e7ade-c8c8-58a8-878d-295c43020de0.html?)** > > “It’s just wrong. It’s gone too far. Students have a dress code to abide by. Why should the teachers not?” (Among other hits) The Star would never in ten _billion_ years carry anything about this without confirming it. It is a very, very careful and reputable newspaper. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/424 "2022-10-04T14:58:03Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You realize that every day vast numbers of people, some on this very board, use their mind reading powers to determine intent. Sure, but on this very board we don’t let them get away with claiming such inferences are anything more than mere speculation if they’re not supported by any verified facts. If they go on repeating their speculations for weeks at a time with no new data to back them up, we call them out on their persistent embrace of ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/425 "2022-10-04T15:15:57Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Whether or not that woman is cis or trans is irrelevant. In a just world, this is true. In the world we live in, it is not true. People who hate transpeople will use every instance of transperson misbehavior to create more animosity for the trans community. It just makes it harder to get people to support trans rights. If this were a cis woman modifying herself and presenting inappropriately, the pictures wouldn’t ever be used to suggest that cis women shouldn’t be allowed near our children. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/426 "2022-10-04T15:28:12Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > We don’t have independent corroboration of this. > > We have anti-trans groups presenting that news. And not much else. **RickJay** isn’t presenting much else, either. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/427 "2022-10-04T15:29:08Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > In a just world, this is true. In the world we live in, it is not true. People who hate transpeople will use every instance of transperson misbehavior to create more animosity for the trans community. It just makes it harder to get people to support trans rights. This is one reason why this situation should be discussed even if there is scant information. No matter the underlying facts, this story is spreading around the world. I’ve seen these pictures in other forums on the internet under things like “Funny Pictures”. I’ve seen it on social media. Regardless of whether it’s right or wrong, this situation is shaping people’s opinions around transgender people. Regardless of the situation, I think it has been handled poorly from a trans rights perspective by the school and the teacher. As has been mentioned, there has been little additional information to clear up the situation. This allows the rumors to spread like wildfire along with whatever mis-impressions people create from the story. If the teacher or the school thought this would be no big deal in today’s viral internet world, they are very naive. My impression is that this is overall harming trans rights and the perception of transgender people. The school and teacher certainly don’t have any obligation to clear things up, but we can’t all just say we wish it wasn’t a topic of discussion and leave it at that. It is a topic of discussion whether or not we want it to be. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/428 "2022-10-04T15:58:23Z")
The school probably can’t do anything, due to privacy concerns. I think you’re putting too much of a burden on the teacher to make her responsible for the impression people have of trans people worldwide. If it weren’t for transphobic bigots, this wouldn’t be a story at all and those pictures wouldn’t be circulating at all. Your post seems to excuse the cause of all of this. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/429 "2022-10-04T16:40:56Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The story has been picked up and confirmed by pretty much every media outlet in Canada, across the entire political spectrum. Cites? I haven’t seen anything on any mainstream media. And no, I don’t consider the Toronto Star mainstream. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/430 "2022-10-04T16:47:00Z")
The story has been in the Toronto Sun and the more credible Toronto Star and The Globe and Mail. I have no idea what other news and media has featured it. But all of the above would be considered mainstream by most Canadians. I will leave it to others to search or post links should they wish. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/431 "2022-10-04T16:48:47Z")
Someone please PM me if anyone of the despicable transphobes in this thread ever comes around to see the error of their ways. Otherwise, I’ll keep this thread on mute and those posters on ignore. There should be no platform for bigots. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/432 "2022-10-04T17:03:27Z")
> [@Latimera](#): > > And no, I don’t consider the Toronto Star mainstream. The Toronto Star is not what you appear to think it is. Perhaps look into it a little more. From Media Bias Fact Check website: > - **Overall, we rate the Toronto Star Left-Center biased based on editorial positions that favor the left and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing.** ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/433 "2022-10-04T17:54:52Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > **RickJay** isn’t presenting much else, either. I haven’t presented any “anti-trans” or “right wing” sources. > [@Latimera](#): > > Cites? I haven’t seen anything on any mainstream media. And no, I don’t consider the Toronto Star mainstream. Please, for the love of all that is holy, pay attention to what people are typing. The Toronto Star is the most mainstream and reliable news source you can possibly imagine. The Toronto STAR is not the Toronto SUN. I know those are both astronomical objects but they are not the same newspaper. **I pointed out this distinction three hours before you posted.** ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/434 "2022-10-04T18:47:07Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I haven’t presented any “anti-trans” or “right wing” sources. No, you just direct everyone to the _Toronto Star_ and make references to some unnamed person who is supposedly acquainted with the subject. > [@Latimera](#): > > you expect us to believe you when you tell us someone (unidentified) told you something (unclear) and therefore the story is true. Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/435 "2022-10-04T18:52:34Z")
The idea that it’s a hoax is baffling. It was obviously true ever since the first post with all the random photos from random students’ social media. That’s even before the newspaper stuff or someone who lives there vouching for it. Your guess is as good as mine why this lady wants to do this, but she definitely is. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/436 "2022-10-04T19:11:41Z")
What was the last actual news, not opinion, released? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/437 "2022-10-04T19:24:09Z")
More second-hand rumor and speculation. Probably not helpful, but it’s the latest news I can find. > **[Was the fake boobs teacher a hoax?](https://unherd.com/thepost/was-the-fake-boobs-teacher-a-hoax/)** > > Last week there was internet uproar at the discovery that a male teacher in Ontario goes to work wearing breasts so huge they’d be absurd by the standards of a seaside postcard. Photographs of this individual, known as “Kayla Lemieux”, were... > **[Is the big-boobed Canadian teacher a conservative troll?](https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/09/is_the_bigboobed_canadian_teacher_a_conservative_troll_.html)** > > Everyone has heard now about “Kayla Lemieux,” the shop teacher at a high school outside of Toronto, Canada. He’s the man who showed up this year in mini-skirts and wearing fake boobs that look like two overblown balloons. His appear... ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/438 "2022-10-04T19:47:57Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The Star would never in ten _billion_ years carry anything about this without confirming it. It is a very, very careful and reputable newspaper. That article appears to be reporting on what people at a protest believe, while doing an extremely careful job of **not confirming** any aspect of the story. ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/439 "2022-10-04T19:55:41Z")
Everyone in this thread who _says_ they think this story is a hoax is lying, and is just trying to troll poor **RickJay** (who, it must be said has the patience of a saint!). ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/440 "2022-10-04T19:57:55Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > Everyone in this thread who _says_ they think this story is a hoax Who is that? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773.md?page=23)