# Shop class no no’s Shorts, long hair and giant prosthetic boobs?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 18, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773 "2022-09-18T21:00:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/461 "2022-10-05T10:07:06Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> But if you do happen to get called a bigot in this thread, its probably because you are being a bigot.
I am not aware of anyone in this thread who is being bigoted. Some have opined that the outfit is not suitable attire for _any_ teacher. Are they bigots?
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### Author:  [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/462 "2022-10-05T10:16:26Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> I am not aware of anyone in this thread who is being bigoted. Some have opined that the outfit is not suitable attire for _any_ teacher. Are they bigots?
…there are people who are participating in this thread who have exhibited bigoted behaviour _prior_ to the rule changes. Cites for that have already been provided.
That they are following the rules in _this_ thread doesn’t mean that they no longer believe what they openly expressed a few years ago.
And if you see anyone in this thread arguing that those who have opined that the people who stated " the outfit is not suitable attire for _any_ teacher" are bigots, then please point them out. It certainly isn’t something that I have stated, nor believe.
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### Author:  [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/463 "2022-10-05T11:23:34Z")
While I find the Florida trajectory on lbgtq rights abhorrent the scholastic sports management website Aktivate appears to be a one stop website to register, pay fees, fill out forms health and releases etc for sports participation. Their privacy policy claims to follow FERPA AND COPPA without limitation yet they do reserve certain rights.
Whether young women in Florida are actually being forced to log their monthly periods for the purpose of banning or identitying trans student sounds a bit dubious imo.
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/464 "2022-10-05T11:23:57Z")
WTF? Florida is tracking the menstrual cycles of school girls? That’s only peripherally part of the war on trans people. That falls squarely into the war on women.
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### Author:  [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/465 "2022-10-05T11:53:03Z")
It’s not really tracking or logging. Most of the articles I’ve seen refer to the fact that Florida has asked questions \* about periods for 20 years on paper forms. Some districts are switching to digital and the concerns are that since the company storing these records is not a health care provider, it is not covered by HIPAA and could be forced to turn over subpoenaed records. Which has become a concern since Roe was overturned.
\*It’s apparently some optional questions on a form for medical clearance to participate in sports.
1. When was your first menstrual period?
2. When was your most recent menstrual period?
3. How much time do you usually have from the start of one period to
the start of another?
4. How many periods have you had in the last year?
5. What was the longest time between periods in the last year?
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/466 "2022-10-05T11:54:41Z")
Those sound like relevant questions for a doctor to ask a patient. They don’t sound like information a school needs, or should ask for, even “optionally”.
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### Author:  [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/467 "2022-10-05T12:00:30Z")
Yeah, that’s another thing that’s strange about Florida- apparently in most states, the list of medical questions ( which include a bunch about having had surgery and other non-period conditions) , is for the doctor and only the last page with the doctor’s signature goes to the school. In Florida , all the info goes to the school.
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### Author:  [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/468 "2022-10-05T12:32:21Z")
> [@doreen](#):
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> It’s not really tracking or logging. Most of the articles I’ve seen refer to the fact that Florida has asked questions \* about periods for 20 years on paper forms. Some districts are switching to digital and the concerns are that since the company storing these records is not a health care provider, it is not covered by HIPAA and could be forced to turn over subpoenaed records. Which has become a concern since Roe was overturned.
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> \*It’s apparently some optional questions on a form for medical clearance to participate in sports.
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> 1. When was your first menstrual period?
> 2. When was your most recent menstrual period?
> 3. How much time do you usually have from the start of one period to
> the start of another?
> 4. How many periods have you had in the last year?
> 5. What was the longest time between periods in the last year?
What is the relevance of this information to participation in sports?
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### Author:  [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/469 "2022-10-05T12:41:21Z")
Things like high exertion or low body fat can cause menstruation cycles to become irregular or stop completely. I would assume these sorts of questions are to determine if the athlete may be at risk of that happening.
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### Author:  [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/470 "2022-10-05T12:45:47Z")
Seems a reasonable discussion to have with a doctor or trainer.
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### Author:  [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/471 "2022-10-05T13:13:46Z")
> [@filmore](#):
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> I would assume these sorts of questions are to determine if the athlete may be at risk of that happening.
Unfortunately, things that have been perfectly innocuous in the past have been weaponized. It is inconceivable to me that this data will not, at some point, be used to charge a girl with a crime, or prevent her from getting the health care services she desires.
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### Author:  [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/472 "2022-10-05T13:28:36Z")
Or just shared carelessly, leading to embarrassment. I am assuming that a 13 year old girl would be mortified to find out that her menstrual cycles have made their way to social media.
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### Author:  [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/473 "2022-10-05T13:43:16Z")
> [@filmore](#):
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> Things like high exertion or low body fat can cause menstruation cycles to become irregular or stop completely. I would assume these sorts of questions are to determine if the athlete may be at risk of that happening.
So will pregnancy. Are pregnant athletes not allowed to participate in sports?
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/474 "2022-10-05T16:26:56Z")
I thought this was a feature, not a bug, and there isn’t anything especially unhealthy about it. Women are just less likely to put their resources into making babies if they don’t perceive an abundance of calories.
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### Author:  [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/475 "2022-10-05T17:30:08Z")
A Scandinavian marathon runner became pregnant even when her periods had stopped, so it’s not even a
complete fail safe. But neither is it especially dangerous (unless it goes on for an extended time which can contribute to osteoporosis). She had a health baby and continued her running career.
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### Author:  [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/476 "2022-10-05T19:21:24Z")
I stopped having periods for a couple of years when I was in my early twenties. I stopped taking my birth control pills after I changed jobs and moved to NYC, and my periods never restarted.
I also had little to no appetite, and as someone that was never close to overweight but always looking to lose a few pounds, I leaned into it, which probably wasn’t the smart thing to do. So I lost a lot of weight, (down to 112 and I’m 5’7”) which probably made the problem worse.
I eventually made myself seek medical attention. I probably should’ve done it sooner but a big part of me was “Hey, I’m really skinny and I don’t have to deal with periods, I’m good”. But I took some hormones and pushed myself to eat more and gained 10 pounds or so, and my body started working again.
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/477 "2022-10-05T19:58:50Z")
Since it seems to have not been mentioned, I’ll just point out that if you spend even a few moments on a platform like Second Life or if you ever see “Furry” art, you will almost immediately be exposed to giant boobs and massive, veinous penises on both male and female-seeming bodies and both together and apart.
It wouldn’t surprise me that someone in one of those communities decides to express themselves in the real world in the same way that they do online. I don’t know that this is such an example but it certainly matches the style.
In general, I expect that we’ll see more people like this - whether this is a person influenced by the online world - as time goes on and, as we become more adept at modifying the human body, you’ll start to see everything in Furry art being done as real, genetically engineered people, walking around.
Imagine that your physical form was completely optional - all the way up to and including losing all human characteristics. I don’t know that the average person will land on “deeply sexualized” as their chosen form but any discussion on the topic of how to move forward should assume that human kind is going to all turn into giant squids and horses, and whatnot. What should the rules really be when “human” itself, inevitably, becomes optional?
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### Author:  [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/478 "2022-10-05T20:39:13Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> You’ve given part of the information you have, but you’ve withheld something you say is probably not relevant because it’s speculation.
Well, yeah, of course there is a rumour the teacher is faking it or making some sort of protest. But that’s completely unsourced internet rumour/speculation, not something I have heard from anyone who’d know. You can find a rumour claiming anything you like somewhere on the internet. **There is NO evidence, anywhere, supporting such a claim.**
I haven’t been cagey at all. I have been quite clear about what I know and don’t know, and have provided links to legitimate, trustworthy news sources confirming the story. I just figured a local source would be helpful in verifying this. I find it very odd people persist is saying this story might be fake.
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### Author:  [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/479 "2022-10-05T20:49:19Z")
> [@RickJay](#):
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> . I find it very odd people persist is saying this story might be fake.
I find it odd that you would feel that way.
Saying that we don’t think that things add up, that we are not getting the whole story, is not saying that it’s fake, it’s saying that things don’t add up, that we are not getting the whole story.
The false dichotomy is entirely of your own creation here.
The whole story would tell us if this person actually is a transwoman, and if so, if this is the attire she wears daily to school, as well as while shopping, at home, and so on. We don’t know if this was a transwoman who wanted to make some sort of point, or a transphobe trying to make a completely different point.
That there was a person wearing these clothes in a shop class is not something that anyone is really questioning at this point. But that’s not the whole story, and questioning the story as put forward by the OP is not “persist[ing] is[sic] saying this story might be fake”.
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### Author:  [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/480 "2022-10-05T20:53:42Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> The whole story would tell us if this person actually is a transwoman, and if so, if this is the attire she wears daily to school, as well as while shopping, at home, and so on. We don’t know if this was a transwoman who wanted to make some sort of point, or a transphobe trying to make a completely different point.
I do not know the answers to those questions and I’m certainly not dropping by OTHS to ask her. I have been quite open about everything I was able to find out from people at HDSB and local news sources. (However, as far as we are presently aware, she identifies as a woman, so please be careful not to misgender her; we don’t have exceptions for that rule.)
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