# Shop class no no’s Shorts, long hair and giant prosthetic boobs?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 18, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773 "2022-09-18T21:00:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/681 "2022-10-17T00:48:45Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Is that exactly what @RickJay was told? We don’t know, because he’s not telling us.

No, I’ve clearly stated **exactly** what I know, and nothing more or less. I’ve never had anyone say this “one teacher is mocking another” thing, I’ve never heard anyone suggest that theory before you posted it.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/682 "2022-10-17T01:02:48Z")

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hey not bad rack tho

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/683 "2022-10-17T01:19:34Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I’ve never had anyone say this “one teacher is mocking another” thing, I’ve never heard anyone suggest that theory before you posted it.

Actually I think the below was the first time I heard that possibility suggested.

> [@RickJay](#):
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> maybe this is some sort of demonstration AGAINST trans people. Would it be all that impossible for someone to do this specifically to make trans people look bad?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/684 "2022-10-17T01:30:40Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Actually I think the below was the first time that possibility was suggested.

No, that’s quite disingenuous. Chronos was theorizing a much more specific scenario, _and then suggested it was possible I had been told it was the case_, but I had not, and never suggested I had.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> My guess is that a wig would fly loose from your body, rather than yank you down with dangerous force.

Depends on the wig and its manner of attachment. Some wigs or hairpieces are pretty firmly affixed. Even if it just _briefly_ jerks your face towards something dangerous, that’s obviously bad. You could still hit yourself against running machinery, or stumble as a result of the surprise, or your shirt could become caught or something by being drawn closer to the equipment.

I mean, I suspect a great many people do use machinery with long hair and don’t get killed by it. Unless your hair is Crystal Gayle long, it would not be THAT much of a risk.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/685 "2022-10-17T02:44:00Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I mean, I suspect a great many people do use machinery with long hair and don’t get killed by it. Unless your hair is Crystal Gayle long, it would not be THAT much of a risk.

It’s not having long hair that’s the problem so much is that you need to tie it back. Even Crystal Gayle would be safe if she made sure her hair was secured and out of the way. Letting it in hang in front of you while you’re using power tools? Like I said, Darwin Award waiting to happen.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/686 "2022-10-17T15:37:29Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> No, I’ve clearly stated **exactly** what I know, and nothing more or less. I’ve never had anyone say this “one teacher is mocking another” thing, I’ve never heard anyone suggest that theory before you posted it.

Are you actually reading the thread?

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I’m going to predict the shop teacher is dressed up like this to mock the person shown as Kayla.

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Maybe it was ‘dress like another teacher’ day.

> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> this teacher is actually just publicly mocking another teacher in a magnificently offensive and unprofessional manner?

> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> If the depicted person IS KL, then this person is NOT a male shop teacher who mocking the real transgendered teacher.

> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> by openly mocking a fellow teacher

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/687 "2022-10-17T15:48:03Z")

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I missed Cheesesteak’s posts, yes. I figured you were now kidding around with that second comment. I mean, come on, if the teacher was mocking another teacher, why is a school board trustee sticking up for them?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/688 "2022-10-17T16:17:43Z")

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Is the school board sticking up for them or just not saying anything (to the public/media)?

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/689 "2022-10-17T16:26:41Z")

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I would like it to be clear that I was responding to the suggestion made in this thread that this may have been mocking rather than a genuine personal style choice. I did not intend to imply that this was a concern brought up by people familiar with this situation, and agree that the concept seems counter to the generally supportive type of responses given by the district.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/690 "2022-10-17T16:36:10Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I missed Cheesesteak’s posts, yes. I figured you were now kidding around with that second comment. I mean, come on, if the teacher was mocking another teacher, why is a school board trustee sticking up for them?

Possibly because the trolling teacher is purporting to genuinely identify as a woman and threatening legal action?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/691 "2023-03-04T19:05:26Z")

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I haven’t had a chance to read this, but here’s an update

> **[Z cup Canadian teacher put on leave after ‘wearing prosthetic breasts’ in class](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/z-cup-canadian-teacher-b2294251.html)**
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> ‘While not currently on an active assignment, the teacher remains employed with’ school board, spokesperson says

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/692 "2023-03-04T19:10:03Z")

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What, they just noticed?

Just kidding. I think this might be the most elucidating quote.

> The decision to place the teacher on leave came after _The Post_ reported that journalists followed her and discovered she only wears prosthetics in class and appears to dress as a man while not at work.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/693 "2023-03-04T19:20:47Z")

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Huh, sounds like this Lemieux _was_ trolling all along.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/694 "2023-03-04T19:26:57Z")

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Y’all missed her skydiving experience with Voodoo the ex porn actor turned skydiving instructor? She was wearing her rig but lost her wig while strapped to Voodoo after jumping out of the plane.

Interesting she says in the article she has real boobs but they’re growing huge due to a medical condition and she’s not trans just intersex.

Whatever.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/695 "2023-03-04T19:27:59Z")

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After parental protests, I believe that a “professional dress code” was introduced for teachers at the behest of the Conservative provincial government. After some fanfare, the new dress code failed to mention any of the things relevant to this story. And so some parents are allegedly protesting that.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/696 "2023-03-04T22:01:04Z")

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To be clear, _The Post_ is this _Post_.

> **[Exclusive | Trans teacher with Z-size prosthetic breasts dresses as man...](https://nypost.com/2023/02/17/kayla-lemieux-ditches-her-z-size-breasts-outside-the-classroom/)**
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> “He wears prosthetic breasts extremely infrequently,” a resident of Lemieux’s apartment complex told The Post. “He puts the breasts on to teach, occasionally when he goes fo…

> [@chela](#):
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> Interesting she says in the article she has real boobs but they’re growing huge due to a medical condition and she’s not trans just intersex.

Sounds like some serious mental health issues there. If the _Post_ is accurate – considering the source, that’s a big if – they clearly are the same person despite protests to the contrary.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/697 "2023-03-05T06:54:45Z")

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One of the worst-written articles I’ve seen recently (even for the Post).Also, even if accurate, many transphobic assumptions (for example, that a trans persn must dress in the target gender at all times or else they’re not really trans). I agree that this person’s story isn’t on the level, though.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/698 "2023-03-05T08:39:55Z")

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I’ll say what I said months ago… I don’t know enough about this to have a judgement. And I don’t trust the _Post_ either.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/699 "2023-03-05T19:32:22Z")

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My position is also unchanged.

> [@DSeid](#):
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> It is not normal behavior for a trans individual; it is not normal behavior for a cis individual. It is disturbed behavior. If the individual doing it is not some in the midst of a mental health or neurological crisis, then they are doing it very aware that it is abnormal behavior that will call attention to themself, and the only reason a person would that is to make statement. The only statement that makes sense is a transphobic one: this is in that case not dressing as a caricature of a woman but as a hateful caricature of a trans woman.
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> Nothing to see here in those cases really.

Only curve to that now is the claim that the individual is now claiming to be some form of XX intersex with a rare case of gigantomastia (which is even more rare to not have cause such back pain as to have had surgical reduction)??

The board obviously knows more and is acting in accordance to what they know. We have no right to that information be it that the person is a cis male troll or someone in mental or neurological crisis.

The story getting press, and being presented here, always was about its utility to the war on the transgendered.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shop-class-no-no-s-shorts-long-hair-and-giant-prosthetic-boobs/971773/700 "2023-03-05T21:09:40Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> It’s a weird story. Cis women who grow breasts like that usually seek surgical aid in reducing the size due to backaches and other problems they cause. Trans women usually choose breasts on the small side, as that’s so much more convenient, and works fine to signal, “this is a woman”. The claim is that this person chose to have breasts like that. So just on the surface, we know something is missing.
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> Other than the long, loose hair i see nothing unsafe about her outfit. And the hair would be totally unremarkable outside a shop. I suspect she ties it up in the shop. And i doubt her outfit violates any dress code. Although women routinely wear clothes that hide their nipples, I’ve never seen that in a written dress code.
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> **So yeah, whatever is going on (and I’m pretty sure we don’t know what is going on)** this article exists for the purpose of public shaming, of pointing at a person and saying “ooh, gross”. That’s pretty sad.

I’m going to stick with my initial response, too. Bolding added.

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