# Shot without sound viewing list

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**Created:** [January 19, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583 "2017-01-19T22:33:15Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583/1 "2017-01-19T22:33:15Z")

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When a scene is shot without recording audio, it’s called ‘MOS’, from the apocryphal German director who would tell his Hollywood crew the take would be _Mit-out Sprechen_. There have been many films, from educational ones, to industrial ones, to ones meant for general release in theatres, that were shot MOS. Music, sound effects, and narration were added later.

**Excluding films made during the silent era** , which films that were shot without sound would you call ‘Required viewing’? Or at least, ‘Recommended viewing’?

[_Kon-Tiki_](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042650/) (1950). I’m cheating a little, because there is an introduction that was filmed with synchronous sound; but the film itself was shot on a wind-up Bolex camera and synch-sound was not possible.

[_The Endless Summer_](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060371/) (1964 - initial release). This one was also shot with a spring-motor Bolex H16.

I’m not sure if I should include [_The Call Of Cthulhu_](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060371/) (2005). It was made almost 80 years after the silent era, but it was made to ‘duplicate’ a movie made in 1926.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583/2 "2017-01-19T22:50:06Z")

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There’s a scene in my favourite “bring-to-bad-movie-night” movie, _Robot Jox_, that depicts a brief battle in space when Achilles launches the Matsumoto XIV into orbit, and Alexander pursues him there. Unlike just about every sci-fi movie since the introduction of talkies, the exterior shots in this scene are completely without sound… _just like they would have been in real life!_

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583/3 "2017-01-19T22:56:41Z")

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Does **The Creeping Terror** count? They didn’t plan to shoot it without sound, but the sound got ruined anyway. An MST3K favorite.

> **[The Creeping Terror](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Creeping_Terror)**
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> The Creeping Terror (a.k.a. The Crawling Monster) is a 1964 horror–science fiction film directed and produced by, and starring, Vic Savage. The plot is centered upon an extraterrestrial, slug-like creature that attacks and eats people whole in a small American town. Widely considered to be one of the worst films of all time, The Creeping Terror has become a cult film.
> While driving along a highway in fictional Angel County in California, a sheriff's deputy, Martin Gordon (Vic Savage) and his w...

How about **Le Dernier Combat** – low-budget black and white French science fiction film. (It’s Luc Besson’s first feature) It has sound, and was shot with it. But there’s not a single word of dialogue. You don’t need subtitles.

> **[Le Dernier Combat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Dernier_Combat)**
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> Le Dernier Combatcode: fra promoted to code: fr (French: \[lə dɛʁnje kɔ̃ba\]; English: The Last Battle) is a 1983 post-apocalyptic French film. It was the first feature-film to be directed by Luc Besson, and also features Jean Reno's first prominent role. Music for the film was composed by Éric Serra. The film was the first of many collaborations between Besson, Reno and Serra. A dark vision of post-apocalyptic survival, the film was shot in black and white and contains only two words of dialogu...

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583/4 "2017-01-19T23:25:38Z")

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I strongly recommend _[Blancanieves](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blancanieves)_, a silent version of _Snow White_ were Snow White and the dwarves are bullfighters, and the evil stepmother is into kink.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583/5 "2017-01-20T02:43:19Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Does **The Creeping Terror** count? They didn’t plan to shoot it without sound, but the sound got ruined anyway. An MST3K favorite.
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> [The Creeping Terror - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Creeping_Terror)

Hm… I hadn’t considered _intending_ to record audio and then just dubbing (ADR). I’m thinking that in the spirit of the thread, it wouldn’t count. Let’s hear what the judges say…

Anyway, it reminds me of _The Beast Of Yucca Flats_ (1961). It was filmed without audio, and when characters speak, they are offscreen, have their backs to the camera, in darkness, far away, etc. In this case, the filmmaker _did_ intend to shoot MOS and add the narration, dialogue, and sounds in post…

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583/6 "2017-01-20T02:47:16Z")

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I’m pretty sure most early Shaw Brothers kung fu films of the 70’s/80’s were all MOS. I don’t have time for cites right now though.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583/7 "2017-01-20T14:24:50Z")

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How about “Koyaanisqatsi”?

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583/8 "2017-01-20T15:51:12Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> How about “Koyaanisqatsi”?

That should definitely be on the list. I’ve never seen it. I don’t know if I’d like it or not. But I remember the buzz back when it came out (or thereabouts), and it sounded like an important film for its day.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583/9 "2017-01-20T16:02:56Z")

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Weren’t the spaghetti westerns generally shot without sound, with the voice tracks dubbed in later for the appropriate language for the country in which the print was to be distributed? I once heard that the actors just counted from one to ten, to give plausible lip movement that nobody bothered to synch.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-without-sound-viewing-list/777583/10 "2017-01-20T19:40:30Z")

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That’s still the case with many movies.
