# Shots fired at police officers at Dallas anti-police protest **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 8, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353 "2016-07-08T02:18:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/61 "2016-07-08T19:39:06Z")
**Sage Rat** I’ll be the one who instructs posters to stay away from threads. Quit Jr modding and dial back your tone. > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > If you are incredulous about that, I’d probably vote that you might want to stay away from this thread, as I doubt that you’re going to approach it with much rationality. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/62 "2016-07-08T19:42:08Z")
I have several close friends in the Dallas area and I just found out that the brother-in-law of one of my friends was one of the victims. The information I am getting 2nd hand is very confused and I am not going to try to get details from my friend at a time like this. I am not sure if he was killed or injured but I think maybe he died in the hospital. I do not know his name. I’m just saddened by this. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/63 "2016-07-08T20:43:38Z")
A related shooting in [Tennessee:](http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/07/tennessee_highway_gunman_motiv.html) > [@](#): > > A man who opened fire on a highway in Tennessee because he was troubled by incidents involving black people and law enforcement officers, authorities said on Friday. > > In a news release, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said initial conversations with the suspect, identified as Lakeem Keon Scott, revealed he was troubled by incidents across the U.S. > > The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said Scott is black, while the shooting victims are white. > > Investigators say Scott killed one person and wounded three others, including a police officer. ---
**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/64 "2016-07-08T21:19:59Z")
He was troubled by the incidents, so he caused another one? That doesn’t make sense at all. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/65 "2016-07-08T22:08:49Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I don’t disagree, actually, but this was an extremely well planned, well executed attack, rivalling anything ISIS has ever done in the US. I’m very curious as to who these people are and how they came up with this plan. It’s just too premeditated to be about rage over the last two incidents. Given that it was a single shooter, and that it was obvious that there would be a police presence at the protest, I don’t think it takes a lot of planning to take your weapon and start shooting. The guy was a veteran and so I assume he knows how to fire this kind of weapon. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/66 "2016-07-08T23:15:46Z")
Question: when there’s a single shooter, and it’s initially reported as multiple, why does that usually happen? Pure heat of the moment panic? Echoing gunshots? ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/67 "2016-07-08T23:31:11Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Question: when there’s a single shooter, and it’s initially reported as multiple, why does that usually happen? Pure heat of the moment panic? Echoing gunshots? Confused witness reports. One witness says “short,” another witness says “tall,” because the terms are subjective, but when a cop or reporter puts them together, you have one short person, and one tall person. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/68 "2016-07-09T02:41:37Z")
I kept hearing and reading about three suspects in custody throughout the morning. Did that even happen and, if so, are they still in custody? ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/69 "2016-07-09T02:43:36Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Confused witness reports. One witness says “short,” another witness says “tall,” because the terms are subjective, but when a cop or reporter puts them together, you have one short person, and one tall person. Conspiracy Theorists latch on this sort of muddled first reports; I wouldn’t be surprised if they are not already weaving a narrative of a false flag shooting based, in part at least, on this. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/70 "2016-07-09T04:25:50Z")
The police, or perhaps the media, misreported a lot of stuff. Like the bomb that was detonated. The shooter didn’t have a bomb, the robot brought one to detonate. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/71 "2016-07-09T06:37:06Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Conspiracy Theorists latch on this sort of muddled first reports; I wouldn’t be surprised if they are not already weaving a narrative of a false flag shooting based, in part at least, on this. Oh, they started doing that immediately; just google Dallas + “false flag”. These days the moment \*any \*shooting hits the news, that particular segment of the population is immediately crying “false flag”. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/72 "2016-07-09T17:30:18Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The police, or perhaps the media, misreported a lot of stuff. Like the bomb that was detonated. The shooter didn’t have a bomb, the robot brought one to detonate. According to reports, the shooter told the negotiating team that he had planted bombs all over downtown. Although apparently none have been found at the site, he did have[bomb-making materials in his home.](http://abcnews.go.com/US/dallas-shooting-suspect-wanted-kill-white-people-white/story?id=40431306) ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/73 "2016-07-09T23:06:36Z")
Just now, on CNN, something is going on in Dallas, the streamer says police HQ is on lockdown. Commentators are babbling on, something about inspecting the cars in the parking area, with police sinpers said to be on surrounding rooftops. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/74 "2016-07-10T00:29:19Z")
[There was an anonymous threat, and they are searching a parking garage](http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/09/us/dallas-ambush-investigation/index.html). Also, a little more detail on the robot-delivered bomb: > [@](#): > > Negotiations had failed and the gunman was still shooting at them, so police used C4 with a detonation cord mounted on a Remotec F-5 robot. > > The explosive weighed about one pound, police said. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/75 "2016-07-10T00:42:20Z")
The robot gave his life to end the siege. Hope he got a medal. Poor guy. RIP Robot [![](http://www.iainclaridge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lost_in_space.jpg) ](http://www.iainclaridge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lost_in_space.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/76 "2016-07-10T01:15:44Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The robot gave his life to end the siege. Hope he got a medal. Poor guy. RIP Robot > [http://www.iainclaridge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lost\_in\_space.jpg](http://www.iainclaridge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lost_in_space.jpg) When the Robot Uprising happens, this will be one of their grievances. [“You want me to do what?”](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v7vtdZJtwbE/maxresdefault.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/77 "2016-07-10T01:49:53Z")
[http://www.wcsh6.com/news/nation/dpd-headquarters-on-lockdown-wfaa-sources-swat-deployed-for-serious-threat/268434292](http://www.wcsh6.com/news/nation/dpd-headquarters-on-lockdown-wfaa-sources-swat-deployed-for-serious-threat/268434292) I really hope this doesn’t turn into a repeat of Friday. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/78 "2016-07-10T21:08:04Z")
Dallas Morning News published profiles of all 14 shooting victims and their families. It helps personalize the story behind the horrific video that we all saw. > **[A look at the lives of the Dallas ambush victims](https://interactives.dallasnews.com/2016/ambush-victims/?_ga=1.19534268.58955479.1468094397)** > > Five officers were killed and nine were injured when a gunman opened fire during a rally and march in downtown Dallas Thursday night. Read about each of the victims who have been identified. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353/79 "2016-07-10T23:05:45Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Dallas Morning News published profiles of all 14 shooting victims and their families. It helps personalize the story behind the horrific video that we all saw. > [A look at the lives of the Dallas ambush victims](http://interactives.dallasnews.com/2016/ambush-victims/?_ga=1.19534268.58955479.1468094397) My friend was Lorne Ahrens sister-in-law. She was with his wife ( her sister ) throughout that night and the next day. Heartbreaking. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shots-fired-at-police-officers-at-dallas-anti-police-protest/759353.md?page=3)