# Should a ten day waiting period be instituted for abortions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 28, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356 "2012-12-28T04:35:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![gunchris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@gunchris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gunchris)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/62 "2012-12-29T06:20:55Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Who said anything about prison? I have a license to carry, I can carry legally in about 30 states, yet where I live if I accidentally drive over the unmarked CA border, I can get charged with a felony because my side arm holds a standard 15 rounds, a felony to carry into CA. If I am like all the other Democrat gun owners who thought getting training and a background check and a license to carry and I visit NYC with my licensed gun its a minimum yr on Rikers . The penalties for violating some of these insane anti gun laws are prison. I got kicked off Jury duty in San Francisco for pointing this out. A young African American man was on trial for merely having a handgun in his car, he legally owned it and was simply pulled over for DWB In most western states its perfectly legal to have a loaded handgun in your car. He was probablt thinking it was just like his home state, he wasn’t a gang banger, he was just a young man driving somewhere…yet the Democrats howl for his incarceration. Where do you think they put people who violate the stupid stupid gun laws we have? Oh, btw, you’re quite correct - I really should have lurked here for awhile. I assure you though, as a newcomer here it really comes across as double standard, granted the topic of this thread was not well _conceived_ 🆒 but many of the arguments I have heard so far have been incredibly foolish. I like your style and ability to disagree with out being totally disagreeable, your OK in my book _ **anti Bob** _. I’m just gonna lurk for awhile. ciao. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/63 "2012-12-29T06:43:00Z")
> [@gunchris](#): > > I got kicked off Jury duty in San Francisco for pointing this out. A young African American man was on trial for merely having a handgun in his car, he legally owned it and was simply pulled over for DWB In most western states its perfectly legal to have a loaded handgun in your car. He was probablt thinking it was just like his home state, he wasn’t a gang banger, he was just a young man driving somewhere…yet the Democrats howl for his incarceration. You shoulda kept your mouth shut until deliberations, then nullified. Strategy! ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/64 "2012-12-29T09:03:01Z")
> [@gunchris](#): > > in CA, you have to wait ten days to get a gun. **A single mom found out the hard way when she testified against a hells angel in Alemeda, she told the cops that he said he was going to kill her and they simply told her they would be patrolling her neighborhood and to call if she saw him. > They killed her son first and made her watch, then her.** She needed a gun immediately not in ten days. Can we get an actual cite for that? The only thing I’m aware of that even somewhat fits that description is the Margo Compton case, which was way back in 1977. It was also in Oregon, which has no waiting period for gun purchases (okay, you have to wait a few minutes to have them make a quick phone call and ring up your order). ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/65 "2012-12-29T12:09:52Z")
> [@gunchris](#): > > IWhere do you think they put people who violate the stupid stupid gun laws we have? In empty abortion clinics, duh. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/66 "2012-12-29T18:18:38Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > Can we get an actual cite for that? This thread is for ACTION, not FACTS! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/67 "2012-12-29T19:40:35Z")
> [@gunchris](#): > > I have a license to carry, I can carry legally in about 30 states, yet where I live if I accidentally drive over the unmarked CA border, I can get charged with a felony because my side arm holds a standard 15 rounds, a felony to carry into CA. Hopefully we can extend that ban to more places. In any case, it’s clear that you started this thread under false pretenses. You don’t want to talk about abortion, you just want to talk about guns. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/68 "2012-12-29T22:30:14Z")
Hey, guns and foetuses are a natural match. Er, well, maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/69 "2012-12-29T23:27:19Z")
Guns and fetuses means fun and… getuseses. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/70 "2012-12-29T23:43:56Z")
Guns and abortions? “It wasn’t an abortion, the fetus shot itself.” ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/71 "2012-12-29T23:46:08Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > If we do this, I say we also require an ultrasound probe before buying a gun. Men need to get probed, too, but only if they’re buying a rim fire weapon. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/72 "2012-12-30T00:42:13Z")
Gee, gunchris, if you shoot the mother dead wouldn’t that also abort the foetus most of the time? I don’t think your argument works in this respect. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/73 "2012-12-30T01:12:59Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Gee, gunchris, if you shoot the mother dead wouldn’t that also abort the foetus most of the time? That’s why you arm the fetus; so it can shoot back. Just add a firing port to Mom at the belly button. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/74 "2012-12-30T01:23:00Z")
I’m admitting I haven’t read all the posts so this issue may have already been raised. But I want to ask the OP what would be the program for a ten day waiting period on abortions? Would there be some investigation being done during this period? What would be investigated? Who would conduct the investigation? Who would decide whether or not the abortion was approved? ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/75 "2012-12-30T01:38:35Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m admitting I haven’t read all the posts so this issue may have already been raised. But I want to ask the OP what would be the program for a ten day waiting period on abortions? Would there be some investigation being done during this period? What would be investigated? Who would conduct the investigation? Who would decide whether or not the abortion was approved? Presumably it would give the happy couple the chance to [pick out names and paint the nursery](http://www.theonion.com/video/new-law-requires-women-to-name-baby-paint-nursery,14393/). ---
**Author:** ![ed\_anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@ed\_anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ed_anger)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/76 "2012-12-30T18:19:19Z")
im cool with 10 day waiting periods for abortion, right after we institute permits to have children. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/77 "2012-12-30T18:52:03Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > More like 24 hour waiting periods, probably because they are even more inconvenient. > > After a bit of searching, the longest in the nation is [apparently](http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865555360/Nations-longest-abortion-waiting-period-among-new-Utah-laws-taking-effect.html?pg=all) Utah with 72 hours. Not to hijack, but how do these laws work? Must a woman physically appear at an abortion clinic and then come back 24/72 hours later? Or can she just call on August 1 at 10am and set up an appointment for August 2 at 10am? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/78 "2012-12-30T18:55:11Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > Not to hijack, but how do these laws work? Must a woman physically appear at an abortion clinic and then come back 24/72 hours later? Or can she just call on August 1 at 10am and set up an appointment for August 2 at 10am? She has to physically appear, to maximize the inconvenience, expense and humiliation. That’s the point after all. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/79 "2012-12-30T21:01:24Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > She has to physically appear, to maximize the inconvenience, expense and humiliation. That’s the point after all. She should be photographed and fingerprinted also so that they can confirm that it was her when she returns in 10 days (or 72 hrs). Likewise the fetus should be ultrasounded so he/she can be matched up as well. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/80 "2012-12-30T21:24:54Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > She should be photographed and fingerprinted also so that they can confirm that it was her when she returns in 10 days (or 72 hrs). Likewise the fetus should be ultrasounded so he/she can be matched up as well. Heh. Or if the Supreme Court would follow the text of the Constitution, the states could actually outlaw abortion instead of doing the song and dance with waiting periods and examinations. I agree that these laws are simply to make abortions inconvenient. But the Supreme Court won’t let states outlaw them, so they must do what they can. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356/81 "2012-12-30T21:43:37Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > I agree that these laws are simply to make abortions inconvenient. But the Supreme Court won’t let states outlaw them, so they must do what they can. _Must_ they? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-a-ten-day-waiting-period-be-instituted-for-abortions/645356.md?page=5)