# Should Algore Throw in the Towel? (a poll) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 28, 2000, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080 "2000-11-28T20:18:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2000, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/21 "2000-11-28T22:46:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bottle of Smoke \* > \*\*I vote that we once and for all do away with this ridiculous “Algore” nickname. What, are we all in third grade here? No but the he(gore)whines he is. And the way I look at it they been calling him Dubya for months. So why shouldn’t gore have a nickname. > [@](#): > > And I’m not telling who I voted for. That’s why there’s a curtain on those booths. \*\* No, there is a curtain there to keep you from being embarrassed who you voted for. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2000, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/22 "2000-11-28T22:51:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > > > [@](#): > > > > Here’s the history lesson of the day: Democratic Leadership Council. Learn about it, won’t you? > > Oh boy, I’ll make sure I put that on my top list of priorities today gadarene. :rolleyes: Only if you care about being, y’know, _accurate_ when you say stuff. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/23 "2000-11-29T02:32:03Z")
No. Independent; registered Democrat when Reagan sold out the Republican Party to the religious right. My answer would be the same if the positions were reversed. Two issues: the process itself is under examination, and the process _must_ prove itself. The individual(s) to be sworn in are almost incidental. Read a poll this morning (yeah, yeah) that over 60% of voters would _not_ support either candidate if made president right now. (Hope I didn’t mangle the fine points of that.) The tactics, hype, posturing and cant count for nothing. What **matters** is the next 4 years of federal business to be done, with a recognized executive and appointees to do it. Plenty will sulk anyway, and second guess and say, “you aren’t _really_ President, neener, neener, neener.” Our hubris got chop-smacked–and I say, “_good_”! It’s a heads-up: our election equipment, laws and procedures creak. So we argue, shout and ultimately solve the problems–but have a plausibly convincing reason to accept the next president as the legitimate choice. Veb ---
**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/24 "2000-11-29T03:14:40Z")
No he should not give up. I would have voted for Harry Browne, but had to cancel out my brother-in-law’s vote so I voted for Gore. Why I don’t like Bush: 1. Because his “youthful mistakes” are my felonies. 2. Because he couldn’t say subliminal. 3. Because I don’t think the country’s leadership should inherit their positions. 4. Because I don’t want to look at him on TV for four years. I have more reasons but can’t think of them right now. ---
**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/25 "2000-11-29T03:16:14Z")
I remember now. Because Rush Limbaugh and Dr. Laura want him. ---
**Author:** ![tubagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@tubagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tubagirl)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/26 "2000-11-29T03:43:51Z")
After the **millions and millions** of dollars spent on this campaign I sure as hell wouldn’t throw in the towel. There is going to be large feeling of antipathy towards whoever wins this election. I sure as hell would fight until I’m dragged bloodied, down the streets with people spitting on me, before I gave up on this pathetic fight. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/27 "2000-11-29T03:54:50Z")
The people of America have SPOKEN and they have said “If we hafta choose between these two, we choose…aaaack! Sorry, can’t do it.” Well, there’s nothing else to be done but start over with the candidates we should have seen on the ballots: John McCain and Bill Bradley. C’mon, raise your hand if you would NOT prefer either of them to either of the two contenders! Registered independent, thank you very much. Tend towards the Dimmycrats cuz the Publicans keep driving me into their arms, but I hate for them to take me for granted. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/28 "2000-11-29T03:59:16Z")
Yes. Put a fork in him, he is done. (I love saying that! :D) If Bush had been the loser and was still pitching this sort of fit, I’d be saying the same thing. I was registered as a Democrat in CA, but recently have moved to a state where you don’t register for a party. I don’t feel too Democratic these days, anyway. More of a Centrist. We will never have numbers that make all of us happy. It is too close to call. Either Gore will be up 500, or Bush will be up 500, (or some other small number) and the other side will be screaming. Flip a coin, do something, but declare a winner. From what I see on the news, the stock market does not like this turmoil, and it is suffering. This concerns me, I just want this DONE. ---
**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/29 "2000-11-29T04:04:11Z")
Flip a coin??? I prefer a duel. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/30 "2000-11-29T04:33:49Z")
_AAaaruuUGH!_ Examples of why this is driving me crazy: the system needs work. The party, issues, people are temporary, but if given a chance the process will far outlive all of it–and us! Frankly, folks, for all the hoopla and ballyhoo, the President is an _executive_. George–Washington, the genuine hero–cast the job as a temporary, limited component of government. We’ve had boobs, rubes, scoundrels, weaklings and some towering, transcendant citizen rulers as Presidents. _But the individual is transitory; the office isn’t._ The office can surive idiots; it has before. But it shouldn’t have to survive fundamental cynicism and flip solutions. True fact: the next president _doesn’t matter diddly_ compared to preserving faith in the office. Not faith in the incumbent, but faith that the office will continue and survive. Duel? Coin toss? _Feh!_ Grumbling, Veb ---
**Author:** ![KP235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@KP235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KP235)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/31 "2000-11-29T04:45:31Z")
I’ll be the second to say it, YES, he should definatly conceed, but he won’t. He lost the first count, he lost the second count, and after the extension that was granted he lost the recount. His recount premise has been stupid as hell. “a dimpled chad counts as a vote for me!” What the hell is that. Either the people voted for him,(by marking the ballot correctly) or they didn’t. His TV apearance last night didn’t help matters either, I know that alot of anti-republicans have been saying they would not have Dubya as a president because he ‘scares’ them, but if anyone was paying attention, Albert showed himself to be one seriously scary ‘individual’. He cannot lead this country in any positive direction, and his continued actions show that. I know alot of people on this board are Democrats, (I am not)but do you really support Al’s actions, or are you supporting the party ? Please, say bye Al. Your career would benifit if you did. ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/32 "2000-11-29T04:57:47Z")
At this point, No. If the US Supreme Court rules in favor of Bush and Gore continues to pursue it, I think he’ll lose me at that point. I’m an indy. I swing. I voted for Gore. I don’t mind Bush as much as I mind the bible-thumping throw-the-flag-burners-in-jail (poppa Bush’s failed cause) kill-the-doctor types that are going to come out of the woodwork if the republicans have the whole shebang. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/33 "2000-11-29T05:54:32Z")
This one is going to Great Debates. ---
**Author:** ![Tejota](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Tejota](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tejota)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/34 "2000-11-29T06:42:33Z")
I’d call myself a republican, if that didn’t put me in the same party as Rush Limbaugh, Tom Delay, Impeachmentgate, and 8 years of trying to use the courts to overturn an election. Followed by a whole year of trying to pawn off a failed businessman and intellectual lightweight as a viable president. bah. call me an independant. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/35 "2000-11-29T06:51:20Z")
I hate Algore so much, that if you really knew you would drop to your knees and pray for my soul. So, the more he carries on, sooner or later I think the country will start to turn against him, and against the whole rotten system. I’m not so fond of W. either, but held my nose and voted for him as a vote against gore. This entire thing demonstrates how pathetic democracy is. These two are the finest men we could come up with? 2 spoiled aristocrats who whine they have the better plan to infringe upon our lives for the next 4 years? For shame, America!:mad: ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/36 "2000-11-29T07:18:45Z")
I think after this week, if it doesn’t go in his favor. Al Gore should stop. As I said it before, Bush and his friends stole the election fair and square. We’ll remember in 2002 and 2004. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/37 "2000-11-29T09:00:14Z")
Yes. If every vote gets counted, which is supposed to happen anyway (isn’t it?), Bush will still come out on top. BTW, registered Democrat. I think we need some new election laws, like: No releasing partial results, we wait until **all** votes are counted, including absentee and military. No ‘dimpled chad’ nonsense. If you need a magnifying glass, it shouldn’t count. No exit polling. Keep the media from ‘projecting’ winners. (I have no idea how) Getting there first and getting it right are 2 different things. ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/38 "2000-11-29T09:59:48Z")
No, the VP should not concede, until all the final court rulings. Why? In no case do i want the Senate, House & Oval Office controlled by the same party. Too scary. ---
**Author:** ![Pyrrhonist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pyrrhonist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pyrrhonist)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/39 "2000-11-29T13:38:22Z")
Gore lost. More correctly submitted votes have been tallied for Bush. Sure, maybe more people in Florida “intended” to vote for Al Gore, but an “intent” is not as decisive as a correctly punched ballot. All this divining the voter’s intent is pure nonsense. Dimpled chads, pimpled chads! If chance or misfortune (or plain old stupidity) muck up your vote than your vote is mucked up and discarded. Tough Luck! The next step would be to divine the voting intentions for the people who didn’t go to the ballots at all. The election debacle is not about “every vote counts and count every vote” or a “prompt resolution,” it about political party shenanigans, getting the upper hand, and out and out winning. Al Gore doesn’t give a rat’s backside about counting every vote, he just wants enough “Votes for Gore” to win and is very willing to discard military votes to achieve what he wants. W. is no better, he’ll wiggle and dance the tune of the party machine just as much as Gore. Bush wins only because of statistical flukes, margins of error, and Gore supporters who can’t read ballots. \* What a big victory there, Mr. Bush!\* But still a victory. Time of Gore to admit defeat. I’m an Independent. I like the Libertarians, but they haven’t got a chance in hell. I favor the Republicans for their fiscal conservatism. The Democrats wouldn’t be such a sour lot if I could trust them not to over spend and over social engineer. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2000, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080/40 "2000-11-29T13:55:03Z")
No. If it isn’t worth fighting for, it isn’ worth running for in the first place. No, because “Landslide” George **lost** the popular vote. The guy who “trusts the people”. The guy who throws a hissy fit about “selective” recounts and then runs sniveling to the Supremes to prevent **any** recounts! No, because if he does, he will have lost because people who tried to vote for him voted for Herr Buchanan by mistake. No, because if he does win recounts, the Creepublicans will march into the Florida legislature and steal it in broad daylight and I say **make 'em do it**. Make 'em show what they really made of! I am on the conservative wing of the extreme left. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-algore-throw-in-the-towel-a-poll/43080.md?page=3)