# Should Antifa violence be condemned?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 20, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902 "2018-08-20T05:14:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/341 "2018-08-31T16:35:37Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I don’t worry about that either. I don’t worry about one-off things that a person on twitter with 100 followers is outraged about.
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> If you are so worried about 20 guys burning a car at a demonstration and feel it’s the downfall of our country, then you need to read more news sources.
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> If you are so worried that you might be condemned for using the wrong pronoun one time, then you should probably reflect on how you view the world, and how it views you.
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> If you are so worried about telling un-PC jokes, you should visit a comedy club sometime and listen all the un-PC jokes that are being told, and then see if those comics are lambasted.
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> As I stated above, if you aren’t worried about all the destruction and violence caused by sports fans around the world, then why on earth would you be so concerned and worried about 20 guys burning a car?
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> Get a grip, jeez.

Look at all the hand wringing on this forum in multiple threads about all sorts of things that are far less worrisome than radical violence employed to intimidate and punish people for speaking the wrong word or supporting the wrong party. These radicals and their apologists are as thread worthy as a non-PC baker.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/342 "2018-08-31T17:04:39Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Look at all the hand wringing on this forum in multiple threads about all sorts of things that are far less worrisome than radical violence employed to intimidate and punish people for speaking the wrong word or supporting the wrong party. These radicals and their apologists are as thread worthy as a non-PC baker.

And I similarly think most of that hand wringing is unnecessary. But a lot of it is actual government officials doing things, not a group of 20 random guys.

I personally worry more about our government doing things than I do about random people punching other random people.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/343 "2018-08-31T17:09:53Z")

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If they come for **octopus** , we will unleash our most fearsome weapons:\*\* Gaudere, Bone, Miller\*\*…you know, the Mod Squad! Antifas will come unglued, reduced to a disorganized band of random shitheads. That’ll learn 'em!

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/344 "2018-08-31T17:16:16Z")

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nevermind

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/345 "2018-09-01T05:29:22Z")

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Dear President has warned Republican voters of the Antifa violence that will result if Democrats do well in the November elections.

How do thread participants feel about that? Is Trump a wise man who foresees the future better than other observers?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/346 "2018-09-01T15:13:33Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Dear President has warned Republican voters of the Antifa violence that will result if Democrats do well in the November elections.
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> How do thread participants feel about that? Is Trump a wise man who foresees the future better than other observers?

Thsi thread participant would like a link to see what you’re talking about.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/347 "2018-09-01T16:04:58Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Thsi thread participant would like a link to see what you’re talking about.

Does either of these links work for you?

[http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump+warns+of+antifa+violence](http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump+warns+of+antifa+violence)

> **[Let Me Google That](http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=trump%2Bwarns%2Bof%2Bantifa%2Bviolence)**
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> For all those people that find it more convenient to bother you with their question than to google it for themselves.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/348 "2018-09-01T19:36:42Z")

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Nevermind

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/349 "2018-09-01T19:47:06Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Nevermind

Nevermind? The President himself is warning about Antifa violence. Isn’t this relevant to the thread?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/350 "2018-09-01T20:32:05Z")

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NM is used to indicate that the poster has posted something he’d rather not. It is not a comment so much as an admission.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/351 "2018-09-01T21:52:29Z")

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NM is New Mexico, which is neither Mexico nor new.

Nevermind is a studio album released by the band Nirvana in 1991.  
_A mosquito  
My libido  
A denial  
A denial  
A denial_

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-antifa-violence-be-condemned/819902/352 "2018-09-02T08:54:04Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> NM is used to indicate that the poster has posted something he’d rather not. It is not a comment so much as an admission.

That’s what “nm” means but **Hurricane** wrote “Nevermind.” I assumed he wasn’t sure whether to leave a space between ‘Never’ and ‘mind’ — I usually get that wrong myself — and edited his message to remove the space.

Whenever I can’t remember how to spell “Never mind” I check it by Googling **Edgar Allan Poe** ’s famous poem _The Voters_. I’ve spoiled the first stanza of that poem in case it’s Un-Safe.

[SPOILER]Once upon a midnight scary,  
Babbling Nazis made me wary.  
Stop this nightmare which appalls and  
Makes me think I’ve lost my mind.

Deny our citizens their passports,  
Pack grim haters on our law courts,  
Swindlers laugh while playing mean sports.  
Woe! Indeed Justice is blind.

And every day a fresh new horror  
From the Prez with tweets unkind:  
Will the voters Never mind ?[/SPOILER]

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