Feel free to try life in Somalia if you believe government is bad.
You believe police are your enemy? You going to then them away if someone breaks into your house, steals your car, or assaults you or your family?
Lol. The Somalia card! It’s not a binary issue, Smapti.
The police are definitely not your friends.
As an aside, I learned from a colleague that distrust of government in privacy issues is more pronounced in the USA. In Europe, generally, they are more trusting of government with private information and less trusting of corporations with private information.
For example in the UK, I believe the government has cameras in public spaces far more than we find in the USA. While in the USA, they relied on private cameras when identifying the Boston Marathon bombers. (Lord and Taylor security cameras).
I wonder if the Apple versus Government opinions have regional bias.
The US used to be concerned with separation of powers. That concept seems to be eroding for short term entitlements and forceful activism on pet issues. However once the ruling classes have that power good luck clawing it back.
Do you have evidence to the contrary? I have a history on this board of changing my stance when presented with evidence, so feel free to show me your evidence that what Tim Cook said is untrue.
So I suppose that when your house gets broken into, you’ll call Apple for help?
They have that because I voluntarily gave it to them.
Again, I voluntarily gave them my address and a credit card number.
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Chances are they have your SSN and access to your credit record.
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No, they don’t have my SS#; I didn’t give it to them. Do you have a cite for them having my SS#?
No, Apple does not track my movements. They don’t have access to my phone.
No, Apple does not have records of every phone call and text message I send and receive. Do you have a cite for your assertion?
No, they know very little about me and yes, I’m okay with that.
This is nothing more than Apple protecting its brand. Nevermind that the iSheep already sign over all their data on virtually every app they use.
How did you buy one without submitting to a credit check?
How do you think they know which tower to route your call to? How do you think Enhanced 911 knows where you’re calling from?
When you restore or upgrade your phone, and all your call records and text records are suddenly on the new device, where do you think that data came from?
Let’s be clear here: you’re suggesting that Tim Cook publicly lied about the amount of information Apple keeps and has access to, risking the well-being of the second wealthiest company on the planet and his own personal reputation, not to mention that he is lying to the federal government? That’s what you’re suggesting? :dubious:
Apple has no idea what tower to route my call to. Why do you think they need to know that? :rolleyes:
Are you serious? I get that you choose to ignore past and present for political purposes. But that’s a silly question.
But to answer it I’d rather trust a corporation like Smith and Wesson for home security.
I am talking about the law. The law does not permit the courts to require Apple to make a new key, but it does permit the courts to seize the code.
If the government demand is for the code, Apple must comply (or raise some other defense).
Wouldn’t be the first time Apple lied about data collection.
So you’ll call Smith & Wesson when your child doesn’t come home from school one day, then.
Ok, I’ll go along with that.
Same answer, though: the government can’t use a subpoena duces tecum to make a safe maker disable a bomb inside the safe.
Your cite doesn’t say what you think it says. Please quote what you think the relevant part is.
Because it is outside the reach of Rule 45. FRCP 34(c): As provided in Rule 45, a nonparty may be compelled to produce documents and tangible things or to permit an inspection.
Sure they are. The order itself exposes the method. If they comply, they demonstrate that the method works.
Doesn’t the FBI have enough evidence already to get them a death sentence or two?
I paid cash.
Again, Apple does not know which tower to route my call to. Are you aware that Apple is not a telephone service provider?
Again: are you aware that Apple is not a telephone service provider?
**That **they already got. Now the feds want his call list and other information that may or may not be on his phone.