(A) I don’t believe the handheld computer’s OS and storage are within the FCC purview and (B) I’m not too sure the FCC’s mandate really requires manufacturers to do absolutely “anything the FCC believes necessary”
A little bit off topic:
Generally, if you have a murderer and its pretty clear who did it (and lets say the guy is dead), why would the police need his phone? Is it standard procedure to assume there’s a bigger coverup or conspirators for any murder? Or does the police want to look into this guy’s phone because of the terrorism angle and possibly see if he had ties to sleeper cells?
I mean, both the guy and his wife are dead, the guilt is indisputable, but there’s no case because there’s no living defendant. Why even bother with his phone?
Did you read the OP? I quoted Tim Cook:
(bolding mine)
You are wrong about it being “just an app”. You are wrong about it not being a new OS.
Cite?
You made that statement; now prove it!
Thomas Jefferson?
Then Tim Cook is being deliberately untruthful, because the court order does not mention a new OS at any point in the text.
Are you claiming to know more about iPhone software and hardware than the CEO of Apple? :dubious:
Are you claiming to know that the software that the government asks for, but which Mr. Cook says does not exist, does in fact exist? Cite?
What, specifically, is it that you’re afraid of happening if the government is able to look in your phone?
I’m claiming that the words/phrases “backdoor” and “new version of the OS” are not anywhere to be found in the court order and are not an accurate description of what the court order is demanding of Apple, and Tim Cook is being dishonest by using those words.
I’ve got some pictures they have no business viewing. Fucking perverts.
Your claim is stupid, spurious and ignorant. It is detached from reality.
Please cite the part of the court order that demands Apple create either a backdoor or a new version of iOS.
Remember Robert Hanssen, the FBI agent who spied for Russia? Why do you trust the FBI so much to keep secrets safe?
I’m not surprised at your position on this. But I would like to point out that law-abiding people DO, in fact, have things to fear regarding the government. Totally aside from the issues of corruption, espionage, etc., there is always the possibility of a genuine mistake that nobody catches in time.
In addition, even though you probably will not believe me, the FBI’s attempt is a horribly poor idea in principle. One of the most basic, fundamental building blocks of the Founders’ philosophy can be summed up thusly: “The right to be left alone.” THAT is why the Constitution has so many checks on the government’s power.
Maybe I’ll tell you once you offer some proof of your claim that our government is trustworthy. The thousands of law-abiding citizens who have been convicted of crimes they didn’t commit is pretty damning evidence to the contrary as far as I’m concerned.
So again, you made a claim that “No law-abiding person has anything to fear from the US government having access to its information.” Either you can prove that claim, or it’s bullshit.
I don’t agree.
The order does not say “new version of the OS,” and so I agree with that part of your claim.
However, it does say:
The described SIF does not exist at present.
If it “load[s] and run[s] from Random Access Memory,” then it is an OS, an operating system.
Therefore, the order does in fact demand that Apple create a new version of an OS.
If it can’t exist then it can’t exist and I would assume that makes the order invalid. Otherwise, it is perfectly reasonable to unlock private information on this particular phone, owned by a terrorist. If Apple does have the capability to do this they have no basis to reject the request.
As far as the privacy argument, I don’t see any basis for people to expect the gadgets they buy to maintain their privacy. Apple can break into your phones any time they want and now the concern is because the government wants them to break into one phone owned by a terrorist and everybody is worried about their privacy. It doesn’t make sense.
The software does not exist.
It could exist, but to bring it into being, Apple engineers and coders would have to design it and write it.
Apple has the capability to do this creative design.
But I don’t agree the court has the authority to require them to do it.
Apple cannot break into your phones any time it wants.
Security on phones nowadays is such that it is not easily decryptable. This was the point of the thread from 2014. Here was the article in question.
The government should be able to search with a valid warrant. There is no requirement their search must be successful.
And -
While you are writing that “Special” O/S, could you:
Have it check its number against this little database we don’t talk about, and, if the number is a “special” one:
- broadcast geotag every hour
- use accelerometer to determine when it is raised, and take a pic and just send it along.
- oh yes, and transmit every call as it happens
- send along any photos or videos it happens to record
Yes, this is the Dred Scott case for a new generation.
This is the “CT” nightmare of turning all those cameras, location trackers and microphones into an intelligence collection network.
A network beyond the wildest dreams of even the most evil dictators of all time.
I want Apple to self-destruct before complying.
You’re misunderstanding. The iPhone currently uses encryption that’s unbreakable except by brute force, where you try to guess what the password might be. No one is proposing that Apple be forced to use compromised encryption. The iPhone also has a self-destruct feature, where it will delete all its info if the wrong password is guessed at ten times. It’s this self-destruct feature that the FBI wants disabled. That’s not the same thing as a back door or compromised encryption.
I’m not sure how I feel about this - the self-destruct feature is something that helps keep our data private, it’s an extra layer of security on top of what already should be unbreakable if you use a strong password. Even if the OS without self-destruct got out, it shouldn’t be an issue. No one short of the NSA could even have a hope of breaking into it, and that’s with considerable resources assigned to the task.
What would people here say about Apple getting the phone, and then giving the FBI the encrypted files that are on it? If they did that, a reduced-security OS would never have to exist outside of Apple.