# Should Bernie and Angela be sanctioned? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 3, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-bernie-and-angela-be-sanctioned/665268 "2013-08-03T19:19:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hmarvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/858c86/32.png) [@hmarvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hmarvin)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-bernie-and-angela-be-sanctioned/665268/1 "2013-08-03T19:19:16Z")
[http://www.clickorlando.com/news/omara-seeks-sanctions-against-rionda/-/1637132/21313412/-/11nvvai/-/index.html](http://www.clickorlando.com/news/omara-seeks-sanctions-against-rionda/-/1637132/21313412/-/11nvvai/-/index.html) The Zimmerman trial may be over, but various hearings and trials against the Prosecutors are looming on the horizon. Aside from their absolutely dreadful performance at the trial, which should gain scorn on both sides of the previous debate, what are your views on the issue at hand, and what do you think the penalties should be? I have no legal experience, since I’m just an uneducated Sioux with hopefully some common sense to guide me. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-bernie-and-angela-be-sanctioned/665268/2 "2013-08-03T19:43:34Z")
I think O’Mara is seeking to remain in the limelight as long as possible … at least until his book comes out. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-bernie-and-angela-be-sanctioned/665268/3 "2013-08-04T00:22:22Z")
> [@hmarvin](#): > > … I’m just an uneducated Sioux with hopefully some common sense to guide me. But your common sense is worth more than mine because your people are better attuned to Nature and the Universe. Or that’s what hippies and anti-littering ads told me. 😉 Didn’t follow the trial and read the title wondering what Bernie Madoff and Angela Bassett had done together that was sanction-worthy, but was anybody from the OJ Simpson prosecution sanctioned? ---
**Author:** ![hmarvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/858c86/32.png) [@hmarvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hmarvin)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-bernie-and-angela-be-sanctioned/665268/4 "2013-08-04T00:44:09Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > But your common sense is worth more than mine because your people are better attuned to Nature and the Universe. Or that’s what hippies and anti-littering ads told me. 😉 > > Didn’t follow the trial and read the title wondering what Bernie Madoff and Angela Bassett had done together that was sanction-worthy, but was anybody from the OJ Simpson prosecution sanctioned? idence When Prosecutors hide evidence they should be given the severest possible penalties. You’re dealing with people’s lives. Innocent or guilty, we all deserve a fair trial. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-bernie-and-angela-be-sanctioned/665268/5 "2013-08-04T00:55:52Z")
Theres supposed to be a hearing on the DA’s conduct leading up to the trial. O’Mara said in over thirty years of experience he had never had so much trouble getting discovery items from the state. It’s especially appalling in a murder trial. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for anything more than a mild reprimand. Theres also a lawsuit by the former IT Director that was fired for testifying. [http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/ben-kruidbos-fired-it-worker-sues-zimmerman-prosecutor-state-attorney-angela-coreys-office](http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/ben-kruidbos-fired-it-worker-sues-zimmerman-prosecutor-state-attorney-angela-coreys-office) > [@](#): > > ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) – The former IT director in the office of the prosecutor who tried George Zimmerman has filed a lawsuit against his former boss, claiming he was unlawfully fired. > > Ben Kruidbos filed the lawsuit against State Attorney Angela Corey’s office on Thursday. > > He is seeking more than $5 million in damages. > > Kruidbos contends he was fired in retaliation for testifying at a hearing in which Zimmerman’s attorneys were seeking sanctions against prosecutors. > > Kruidbos was fired last month and accused of misconduct after he testified in June about retrieving evidence from Trayvon Martin’s cellphone the defense contends wasn’t disclosed. A termination letter described Kruidbos as “untrustworthy” for that incident and others. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-bernie-and-angela-be-sanctioned/665268/6 "2013-08-04T01:04:55Z")
The ex IT director may have a strong case. [http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-angela-corey-lawsuit-20130802,0,4355328.story](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-angela-corey-lawsuit-20130802,0,4355328.story) > [@](#): > > The lawsuit states Kruidbos could not be fired for testifying in a judicial proceeding in response to a subpoena. It also argues that the firing was retaliation for his testimony in the Zimmerman case. > > “It’s important to understand that we’re not just saying my client was wrongfully terminated,” attorney Wesley White said. “We’re also saying that the state attorney broke the law.” > > Florida law prohibits firing people for testifying in trials they’ve been subpoenaed to take part in, and that’s what Corey did to Kruidbos, White said. ---
**Author:** ![hmarvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/858c86/32.png) [@hmarvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hmarvin)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-bernie-and-angela-be-sanctioned/665268/7 "2013-08-04T15:15:48Z")
> **[Zimmerman/Martin case: Exclusive interview with former Sanford police chief...](https://www.police1.com/chiefs-sheriffs/articles/zimmermanmartin-case-exclusive-interview-with-former-sanford-police-chief-and-captain-CX4xTLI7tiGAKx4k/)** > > The death of Trayvon Martin was an avoidable tragedy, and some of the things that happened following the incident are also avoidable if we heed to the lessons learned by two of Sanford’s top cops Why the Zimmerman case ever went to trial says a lot about Corey. There never was a case beyond self defense, considering the empirical evidence, the location of the body after a six minutes of alleged following,etc. Wishful and delusional thinking should not be allowed into a trial. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-bernie-and-angela-be-sanctioned/665268/8 "2013-08-05T16:00:51Z")
> [@hmarvin](#): > > [http://www.policeone.com/chiefs-sheriffs/articles/6355062-Zimmerman-Martin-case-Exclusive-interview-with-former-Sanford-police-chief-and-captain/](http://www.policeone.com/chiefs-sheriffs/articles/6355062-Zimmerman-Martin-case-Exclusive-interview-with-former-Sanford-police-chief-and-captain/) > > Why the Zimmerman case ever went to trial says a lot about Corey. There never was a case beyond self defense, considering the empirical evidence, the location of the body after a six minutes of alleged following,etc. Wishful and delusional thinking should not be allowed into a trial. This was a politically-motivated prosection; that much has been obvious from before Zimmerman was indicted. In that regard, it’s pretty similar to the Duke rape case from a while ago. And just like in the Duke case, the prosecutor should find herself in deep shit for engaging in malicious prosecution.