# Should Biden select a different VP in the next Election? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 9, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341 "2023-12-09T23:54:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/204 "2023-12-19T04:17:57Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Boomers, yes. My own father, born 1947, died in this timeframe. So yes the boomers are done, their time is up. There are **73 million** Boomers alive, and they vote. That is more people than voted for either trump or Biden in 2020. The Boomers are by no means done. Where do you get these “facts”? > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Harris enforcing white supremacy? One must assume they haven’t been paying attention to the all the, overtly, racist things the Republicans stand in favor of. I hate to agree with Crowmanyclouds, but he is totally correct here. But dont worry, CMC, I have grave doubts about ANY of his “facts”. So far, they have been 100% wrong. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Ok that’s fine, buts its not me saying this look at the polls. I cited an USA poll on the black vote, its unquestionably down. Its down about the same amount the white vote is. Voters don’t want trump, but they are still thinking there may be some perfect white knight unicorn candidate out there. There aint, and the real choice is Biden or trump. Once the electorate realizes this, the polls will turn back to Biden. It is usual for an incumbent to have popularity issues halfway thru. People are listening to the three BIG LIES of the GOP: _The economy is terrible!_ (it’s great actually) “Crime is out of control!” (the crime rate is very low. “Open Borders!!!” (false) I know it’s not really useful arguing with split\_p\_j here, but this all bear repeating. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > It’s from her time as DA in LA, she aggressively prosecuted black people. No more than white people or brow people or yellow people. She was a good prosecutor. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Younger black people want reparations. I want a unicorn that shits soft serve ice cream. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/205 "2023-12-19T04:31:09Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I want a unicorn that shits soft serve ice cream. Ask, and you shall receive . . . [![](https://townsquare.media/site/103/files/2015/10/Squatty_Potty.png?w=1200&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89) ](https://townsquare.media/site/103/files/2015/10/Squatty_Potty.png?w=1200&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/206 "2023-12-19T04:34:56Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Ask, and you shall receive . . . Rainbow flavors too! 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/207 "2023-12-19T04:42:45Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I was asked for cites, I gave them. So because it doesn’t fit with your narrative the polls are meaning less? Is that all you have for a reply? No, if you read this thread, we’ve made that point repeatedly since pretty much the start. And backed **that** up. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/208 "2023-12-19T04:53:54Z")
Where is the racist part in that? How is that relevant to this discussion? Someplace in the world was racist so it matters who the VP running-mate is in the next US election? Not seeing the link. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/209 "2023-12-19T05:09:33Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Now there are rumors they are getting full enhanced ID to travel on airplanes, which I don’t even have. I have to go and dig up all my records to apply for it. I have a regular driver’s license . Well, I mean as long as there are rumors about “the other”, we should just go ahead and build a wall to keep them out. Maybe a lynching or a pogrom or two to show them their place. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/210 "2023-12-19T05:36:57Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > There are **73 million** Boomers alive, and they vote. That is more people than voted for either trump or Biden in 2020. The Boomers are by no means done. > > Where do you get these “facts”? Joe Biden received 81,283,501 votes in 2020. I don’t know if the boomers are done, but their political influence is probably already waning, and will continue to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/211 "2023-12-19T05:42:26Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Joe Biden received 81,283,501 votes in 2020. I think the worry is the young people who turned out big time in 2020 can’t be relied upon to do so in 2024. Remember, Trump got the second most votes in history in 2020. His voters are more likely to show up at the polls. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/212 "2023-12-19T05:43:34Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I don’t know if the boomers are done, but their political influence is probably already waning, and will continue to do so. I’ll take some solace that this is going to be the absolute last presidential campaign where we’ll have to hear about what the candidates did or didn’t do during the Vietnam War. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/213 "2023-12-19T06:06:34Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I think the worry is the young people who turned out big time in 2020 can’t be relied upon to do so in 2024. I’ve heard that as well; I guess we’ll see. I did want to correct @DrDeth’s assertion about the number of votes in 2020. Trump also got more than 73 million. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/214 "2023-12-19T07:21:24Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Joe Biden received 81,283,501 votes in 2020. Well, I was close. You’re right, i was thinking 2016 trump vs Clinton. The votes increased quite a bit for 2020. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/215 "2023-12-19T10:50:01Z")
So if Biden dumps Harris he’ll win some votes and lose some. And if he keeps her, he’ll win some votes and lose some others. No one said there would be math…. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/216 "2023-12-19T11:18:56Z")
I don’t understand the syllogism “Democrats don’t care about black people, therefore I won’t vote, thus ensuring that Republicans who _actively want to murder black people_ get elected”. Nose, spite, face. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/217 "2023-12-19T14:33:24Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I think the worry is the young people who turned out big time in 2020 can’t be relied upon to do so in 2024. Even if true, it’s highly unlikely dumping Harris from the ticket would reverse the trend. And that’s the point of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/218 "2023-12-19T14:41:26Z")
**moderating** @split_p_j Just linking to a wiki article in this one. You are officially banned from this thread. Do not post it in again. It looks like you wanted to make one last dig at an entire group. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/219 "2024-08-06T00:47:12Z")
Now they are polling us. [MSNBC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN-e4oEN4SM&t=39s) poll from 08/05/24. Harris support is 81% among Black Americans, up from Bidens low of 73%. But still nearly 10% down from the numbers of Bidens win in 2020. ---
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Closed on August 6, 2024, 12:48am UTC ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-biden-select-a-different-vp-in-the-next-election/994341/222 "2024-08-06T00:48:51Z")
Closed on August 6, 2024, 12:48am UTC This thread was 8 months old and pretty meaningless now to bump. ---
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