# Should Canada Quit the Five Eyes?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 24, 2025, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323 "2025-01-24T05:07:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323/61 "2025-01-28T01:33:14Z")

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> [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](#):
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> There’s almost no chance Canada will pull out. The worst that will happen (and it may be happening already) is that Canada will no longer share accurate intelligence about itself that it believes could be used against it. Frankly, from a strategy perspective, the best thing for Canada to do is to continue working in Five Eyes and retain its credibility so that it can be used a believable mechanism to feed bad intelligence to the US. For all we know, this may be happening too.

I really don’t have much faith the current government has any plan at all around stuff like this.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323/62 "2025-01-28T02:16:32Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> And I’d like a pony, please.

Will this pony have zebra stripes, but the stripes are now zig-zaggy?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323/63 "2025-01-28T02:37:05Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> And I’d like a pony, please

The pony is a lot more likely. Ponies do exist.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323/64 "2025-01-28T02:54:15Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Trump’s imperialist blatherings must surprise his supporters who thought he would withdraw from foreign conflicts

I’m kind of fond of the US “isolationist” policies of the 1930s.

Sure, you guys did not strictly follow them (Latin America, cough, cough) but the idea was to stay out of anyone else’s business.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323/65 "2025-02-01T16:15:57Z")

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And it begins:

> **[ANALYSIS | Why Canada's spies worry about Trump's national intelligence...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tulsi-gabbard-director-national-intelligence-1.7447616)**
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> The U.S. Senate is conducting confirmation hearings for Tulsi Gabbard, Donald Trump's nominee for director of national intelligence. Gabbard has no background in intelligence, and a history of promoting conspiracies and supporting dictators at odds...

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323/66 "2025-02-25T17:31:14Z")

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It might not be voluntary…

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**Author:** ![Slight\_Off\_Hand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@Slight\_Off\_Hand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slight_Off_Hand)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323/67 "2025-02-25T19:25:33Z")

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Peter Navarro dismisses the report but with these clowns who knows.

[https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5163017-navarro-dismisses-report-that-he-wants-canada-ousted-from-five-eyes/](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5163017-navarro-dismisses-report-that-he-wants-canada-ousted-from-five-eyes/)

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323/68 "2025-02-25T19:52:22Z")

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> [@Slight\_Off\_Hand](#):
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> Peter Navarro dismisses

“My view is that we should never have to comment on any story where it’s based on unnamed sources,” he said, adding, “We would **never, ever jeopardize our national security, ever,** with allies like Canada, **ever.** ”

Man, if only he’d “pinky sweared” it, I might have believed this school-yard level of discourse. Is this how they think people in charge of the world should talk?

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-canada-quit-the-five-eyes/1013323/69 "2025-02-25T21:08:29Z")

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Two from five leaves three other countries who might just have an opinion on such a proposition - and some degree of effective influence over who gets what information.

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