# Should Dems make the secret documents at Mar a Lago a major issue? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616 "2024-07-22T16:36:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/61 "2024-07-31T20:55:06Z")
Biden was guilty of hiding documents, refusing to return them when the authorities asked, and leaking them to enemies of the US? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/62 "2024-08-01T01:30:59Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > The only reason he’s not in prison is he _appointed_ the judge trying the case, Just a minor proposed tweak. I’m very willing to admit that NOT EVERY SINGLE federal jurist Trump appointed is as completely incompetent and/or unethical as Loose Cannon. So it isn’t just that he appointed a judge. It’s that he appointed such a woeful candidate for the position. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/63 "2024-08-01T01:57:23Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > So it isn’t just that he appointed a judge. It’s that he appointed such a woeful candidate for the position. I mean her incompetence only made it blatantly obvious from the start she was willing to give up whatever judicial reputation she had for the scumbag that hired her. Other GOP appointees (like the ones on the SCOTUS) were more competent but that just meant it was less obvious that they were in fact willing to give up whatever judicial reputation they had for the scumbag that hired them. But that fact became clear in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/64 "2024-08-01T06:14:34Z")
> [@fedman1](#): > > you do realize that Biden was guilty of same offense, Uh, no. This is absolutely incorrect, as everyone here knows. Biden (and Pence) returned documents when asked. Trump did not, and conspired with others to hide them. THIS is what led to charges. Be better. Don’t repeat this falsehood you were told. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/65 "2024-08-01T11:53:26Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Biden (and Pence) returned documents when asked. Was he even asked? Or did the shit show at MAL remind them that “Oh, I think I still have some” And they contacted the records office. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/66 "2024-08-01T11:55:39Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > I mean her incompetence only made it blatantly obvious from the start she was willing to give up whatever judicial reputation she had for the scumbag that hired her. Yeah - I guess I was aiming at too fine of a point. I thought it possible she could be an incompetent hack appointed by some OTHER Pres. Or that other judges he appointed have ruled against him in numerous other lawsuite. But not enough there to belabor. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/67 "2024-08-01T12:42:17Z")
> [@fedman1](#): > > uh, you do realize that Biden was guilty of same offense Uh, you do realize this is false now, right? It would be a good time to come back and apologize for accidentally spreading this right wing lie. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > This is absolutely incorrect, as everyone here knows. Biden (and Pence) returned documents when asked. Trump did not, and conspired with others to hide them. THIS is what led to charges. Here, maybe respond to that post with your apology. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/68 "2024-08-01T16:46:05Z")
It may be worth a minute to review my relevant post upthread: > [@Should Dems make the secret documents at Mar a Lago a major issue?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/30): > > We may not like – even as we come to understand – what (apparently, illegitimately appointed) Special Counsel, Robert Hur, said about Biden’s potential ‘appearance of competency’ in a trial, but it’s worth noting what else Hur said in his Report: “It is not our role to assess the criminal charges pending against Mr. Trump, but several material distinctions between Mr. Trump’s case and Mr. Biden’s are clear. Unlike the evidence involving Mr. Biden, the allegations set forth in the indictment of … ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/69 "2024-08-01T18:43:51Z")
The point I was trying to make is that MAGA will use the “what about” argument, which is why I said taking that tack would be non-productive ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/70 "2024-08-01T19:57:46Z")
But the “what about” argument is so facile and easily refuted that it only works on MAGAts. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616/71 "2024-08-01T22:21:47Z")
> [@fedman1](#): > > The point I was trying to make is that MAGA will use the “what about” argument So MAGA will lie. They lie about everything, so little point in altering the message of Trumps obvious guilt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-dems-make-the-secret-documents-at-mar-a-lago-a-major-issue/1004616.md?page=3)