Let’s be clear - the root of this problem is private ownership of property.
If we compel everyone to live in state run and owned housing complexes with 24/365 surveillance then these things would not happen (at least not as regularly).
It’s worth a bit of our freedom to be safe, isn’t it?!
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30 would work better.
Yep. There is a reason that I have never met anyone who said “whew, rough day at the office, I think I’m going to go home and kick back with a little Everclear and Gatorade,” or “man, had a fight with the girlfriend, I’m gonna have a cup or two of trash can punch and try to cool off” or “let’s discuss this business proposal over a few grain alcohol and Red Bulls.” Unless you’re making liquers or infusing ginseng, you buy Everclear to mix with some cheap sweet diluent to hide its taste of PURE ALCOHOL so you and your friends can get really drunk, really fast, really cheaply at a party.
I think the parents are just trying to gain some measure of control over the uncontrollable. It’s sad, I feel for them, but of course banning PGA isn’t the solution.
Yup. Everclear is infamous precisely for its high alcohol content. I’m sure there are (probably?) similar-strength grain alcohols out there, but everyone knows the name “Everclear.” I never drank before getting to college, but even as a college freshman girl, I knew what Everclear was, and also to be really goddamned wary of mixed punches at parties because they were probably strong as hell.
Sorry, but your son was an idiot.
That would make for some interesting meetings, though.
Ban mothers.
Given that the mother in question is obviously none too bright, what are the odds that she was drunk on Everclear when she was impregnated by the equally stupid father of the dead adult.
Oh, work would be much more fun drunk, no doubt about it.
In fact whenever I go to Japan, about 1/3 of the time it is.
I have it on good authority that the State Department works not entirely unlike that.
Publishing and advertising reportedly still do too to some extent.
I say we should get to the root of the problem and ban stupidity.
But it appears the Everclear already did that.
I’m probably overstepping my bounds here, but what are the chances he’d still be alive if his parents kicked him out a year after his eighteenth birthday? As in, We’ll help you, but you need to start standing on your own two feet.
Living on my own, and dreading the humiliation that would come with begging my parents for money, certainly cured me of my youthful enthusiasm for mindless debauchery. I’d still have a beer or two with my buds, but boozing til blackout was something I left behind as a teenager.
I know a lot of people who lived on their own who made drunken idiots of themselves at this age. You may be right, but it’s not a given that a lack of disposable income will make someone less inclined to be a drunken fool!
As for the OP, grain alcohol is already illegal here in Ontario. I understand the logic, in that it seems to cross the line from a drink to a narcotic. So does much of the use of Vodka, though. But I don’t agree with it. At least he didn’t kill anyone else with him behind the wheel.
I understand that Everclear is 95% alcohol in that state. However, what was the percentage of alcohol in the punch as a whole?
The only possible answer is “less.” On occasions when I’ve had trash can punch, I remember people mixing in a few gallons of Kool-Aid or fruit punch to every fifth of Everclear. My feeling was that it was roughly 30% alcohol (or 60 proof) at that point. Three times as strong as wine.
Shit, I hope not. I use imported Everclear to make my famous cranberry liqueur. High-proof vodka just isn’t the same.
As for the dude mentioned in the OP: Think of it as evolution in action.
On occasion people do stupid things. Jeff Wielichowski made a bad decision and it cost him his life. Fortunately, most people his age who make similar stupid decisions don’t end up dying because of it. As a young man who had most of his life ahead of him, the death of Jeff is a tragedy. Yes, it was a tragedy of his own making but it’s still sad. Shame on those of you referring to his accident as evolution in action or calling him stupid.
But the silly part is this. Lets say I want to booze up some punch. So I throw in 1.0 liters of Everclear into say 3 liters of punch/redbull/pigeon crap and end up with something like 25 percent alcohol. To booze up the same mix with vodka to same alcohol level I’d to put in something like 1.1 liters.
So it makes no sense to ban the super high test stuff when it only takes a smidge more of the regular high test stuff to have the same effect.
Maybe what they need to do is tax based upon alcohol content so that if your goal is consume X amount of alcohol it doesnt matter if you buy one 1 case of cheap ass beer or one small bottle of Everclear because the cost per amount of actual alcohol will be equal. Or make it that the tax rate is such that actually cost significantly MORE to get drunk on the high test stuff than the really low test stuff.
It’s the same in California. But even at a mere 151-proof, the bottle still carries the flammability warning, and with good reason: A 75% ethanol solution was used in the V-2 rockets, only because any higher proof would have caused the engine itself to burn up.
Bacardi 151 can also be used to extract herbal essences, but has the disadvantage of a medium golden brown color. This makes it difficult to estimate the strength of the extract by the color of the liquid.
I thought this thread was about the band.