# Should I see Ocean's 13? (no spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 6, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-see-oceans-13-no-spoilers/410689 "2007-07-06T03:31:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-see-oceans-13-no-spoilers/410689/1 "2007-07-06T03:31:11Z")
I liked Ocean’s 11 and violently disliked Ocean’s 12. Based on this, should I see Ocean’s 13? Yes or no answers please, unless your non-Y/N answers can be expressed with no spoilers for O-13. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-see-oceans-13-no-spoilers/410689/2 "2007-07-06T03:37:29Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] I liked Ocean’s 11 and violently disliked Ocean’s 12. Based on this, should I see Ocean’s 13? Yes or no answers please, unless your non-Y/N answers can be expressed with no spoilers for O-13. [/QUOTE] Yes. Was it as good as Ocean’s 11? No. Was it much better than Ocean’s 12? Oh, by a long shot. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-see-oceans-13-no-spoilers/410689/3 "2007-07-06T03:41:09Z")
Yes. In tone and plot, much more similar to 11 than 12. ---
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-see-oceans-13-no-spoilers/410689/4 "2007-07-06T03:52:15Z")
Yes, absolutely. I also loved _11_ and hated _12_ (didn’t even finish watching it, actually), and I thought _13_ was awesome. If nothing else, it’s like a study in how to make every frame of a film look seductively cool. ---
**Author:** ![Girl\_Next\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@Girl\_Next\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_Next_Door)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-see-oceans-13-no-spoilers/410689/5 "2007-07-06T03:54:49Z")
George Clooney in a tux. What more do you need? ---
**Author:** ![Foldup\_Rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df788c/32.png) [@Foldup\_Rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foldup_Rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-see-oceans-13-no-spoilers/410689/6 "2007-07-06T04:34:43Z")
[QUOTE=Girl Next Door] George Clooney in a tux. What more do you need? [/QUOTE] _Ocean’s 12_ had that and still managed to violently suck. …but I still watched it all… ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-see-oceans-13-no-spoilers/410689/7 "2007-07-06T04:35:57Z")
I loved 11 and hated 12. I didn’t hate 13 (it was definitely a step-up from 12), but still it was just kind of stupid, I thought. It wasn’t very funny and the con/heist wasn’t all that interesting. And even though the previous movies definitely have some highly improbable/implausible plot devices, this one took that aspect to new levels of ridiculousness. My suspension of disbelief was jarred multiple times. My advice is to wait and rent it. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-see-oceans-13-no-spoilers/410689/8 "2007-07-06T04:55:07Z")
I agree with **Tangent**. For all its complexity, the plot’s forward movement was utterly boring and linear. ---
**Author:** ![TheMerchandise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b487fb/32.png) [@TheMerchandise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheMerchandise)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-see-oceans-13-no-spoilers/410689/9 "2007-07-06T13:41:57Z")
12 was painfully, painfully bad. In 13, they’re back in Vegas where they belong and the caper is interesting, but I did feel it lacked a lot of the excitement of the first film. I wouldn’t say “boring,” but I didn’t feel the rush of the first one.