# Should I take my "5" girlfriend to "She's Out Of My League"? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 13, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904 "2010-04-13T00:37:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/21 "2010-04-13T02:12:43Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > I want to avoid the subject but if we see the film the discussion might come up and _ **she might want my honest score of her** _ rather than me sidestepping the question. Dude. No she won’t. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/22 "2010-04-13T02:30:37Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > She’s real… BTW on another messageboard I have a blog about our relationship… though I probably shouldn’t mention the site. In that case, I apologize and hope you two are very happy together in the future… ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/23 "2010-04-13T02:32:19Z")
Cazzle: Yeah… she said her male friend told her she should give me another chance. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/24 "2010-04-13T02:32:47Z")
Is she the same girlfriend from some previous threads? Maybe it would be best not to run the risk of getting into this kind of discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/25 "2010-04-13T02:42:06Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > So for people who have seen the “She’s Out Of My League” movie, is the message that it is ok for people to date within their league? Or does it say that people would rather date 10’s? On the official website it says something about 10’s having to put in the effort of being perfect. I don’t even have to see the movie to know its message. Its about a nerdy kid who is really down on his luck. Lives with his parents/friends and has a lame/no job. One day he meets and starts dating a girl that’s out of his league. Everyone that has made fun of him before finds out about the relationship and comedy ensues. The couple suffer a minor setback in their relationship but come back together in time for the closing credits. It’s every single romantic comedy ever made, except this one isn’t hiding the fact that the loser is dating a girl that is way too good for him. The message is that it’s possible for losers to date 10s. The answer to your OP is easy. Take her to see Kick Ass, it will be a much better movie. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/26 "2010-04-13T04:54:59Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Let’s shout our ignorance and bigotry to the rooftops. Oh yes, because voicing honest skepticism is totally the same as that. C’mon. Anyway… Go take her to the movie, and keep your comments about her being a 5 to yourself. It’s that simple. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/27 "2010-04-13T10:15:15Z")
Well we watched “Kick Ass” and she said she liked it a lot a few times… ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/28 "2010-04-13T11:35:47Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > AClockworkMelon: > I don’t mind if she thinks she’s a 10. BTW she has a (fairly harmless) stalker who would think she’s a 10. I wouldn’t be surprised if this stalker ends up wooing your girlfriend - she may end up feeling that a fairly harmless obsessive is a better bet than a mealy-mouthed lukewarm prospect as yourself. ---
**Author:** ![LunarPlexus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LunarPlexus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LunarPlexus)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/29 "2010-04-13T11:57:58Z")
> [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](#): > > I tend to think that the whole world is just a big rat race. Everyone just wants a bigger slice of the pie. People want a hotter girlfriend or boyfriend. They want more money and more status. They want more pleasure. Sometimes, people are right in asking for more (like MLK was right in asking for equal rights), but even then, people still just want more shit. Even raging feminists want more money, status, and studmuffin. > > And yet, despite my ultra-cynical view of human affairs, I still find the OP’s approach to this idea unnerving. I don’t know what to say. Even I, Joey the ultra-cynic, object to these numerical rankings. Just average rant, Joey. I give it a 5. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/30 "2010-04-13T12:00:08Z")
Staggerlee: I am somewhat mealy-mouthed though she is aware that I’d rather she lose a lot of weight. By fairly harmless I mean that he doesn’t seem to be violent though she did ask him to leave one time when he started shouting a lot about someone letting down his tyres. Lately he’s been trying to make friends with her friends and brag to her about it via text messages. She’s had other stalkers in the past. Her first one I think was when she was in grade 6 and a guy said that he’d kill himself if she wouldn’t go out with him. BTW the girl calls me “gorgeous” a lot. I sometimes tell her she’s beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/31 "2010-04-13T12:30:47Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Staggerlee: > I am somewhat mealy-mouthed though she is aware that I’d rather she lose a lot of weight. > By fairly harmless I mean that he doesn’t seem to be violent though she did ask him to leave one time when he started shouting a lot about someone letting down his tyres. Lately he’s been trying to make friends with her friends and brag to her about it via text messages. She’s had other stalkers in the past. Her first one I think was when she was in grade 6 and a guy said that he’d kill himself if she wouldn’t go out with him. BTW the girl calls me “gorgeous” a lot. I sometimes tell her she’s beautiful. Well I’m glad to hear you consider her beautiful, and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being pragmatic about weight loss. But what I was suggesting is that even an apparent loser/stalker could eventually seem a better prospect than a half-hearted boyfriend. To my shame, I had a girlfriend who I considered less than ideally attractive to me, and while I never directly let on, I think this helped in driving her into the arms of another. While ultimately probably a good thing, _you don’t want that pain_. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Am\_The\_Lorax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19adc/32.png) [@I\_Am\_The\_Lorax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Am_The_Lorax)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/32 "2010-04-13T12:57:52Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > I want to avoid the subject but if we see the film the discussion might come up and she might want my honest score of her rather than me sidestepping the question. I wasn’t talking about the movie, but about this thread and the others mentioned. Sorry I wasn’t clear. Glad to hear you took her to Kick Ass and glad she enjoyed it. It seems to me you have a knack for saying the wrong thing and if you had taken her to the other one, you would have made it bad, not the movie itself. And speaking as a woman, I wouldn’t want an honest score or any other kind of score. It’s obvious you want to make it work with her, so don’t do that. If you want to pay her a compliment, don’t “score” or “rank”, just tell her something you honestly like about her. You said she’s great in bed. Tell her that. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/33 "2010-04-13T13:10:02Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Because she is a 5 and he is a 5. You think 5 level putang is gonna do any better than that? Well, all she needs is 150 more xp and then she’s a level 6. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/34 "2010-04-13T19:17:44Z")
I want to know, **JohnClay** – if this girl is only a “5”, and a “10” came along and wanted you, would you dump your girl? If so, you’ve got a lot of thinking to do. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/35 "2010-04-13T19:46:29Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I want to know, **JohnClay** – if this girl is only a “5”, and a “10” came along and wanted you, would you dump your girl? If so, you’ve got a lot of thinking to do. I don’t see why. The last girl I was dating was good enough to date. But if [any of these girls](http://www.theinfamousnick.com/blog/toptenwomen.html) came by and wanted me, I would have ditched her in a second. I didn’t love her or anything and the OP has given no indication that he loves the girl he’s with, either. It’s just dating. That being said, continue to flame him away. I mean, it’s not like _I_ go around listing the scores of the girls I’m with. I only do that around friends. ---
**Author:** ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/36 "2010-04-13T20:09:49Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > If anything, I find JohnClay refreshingly honest about this crap. Most people inflate numbers both by what they think they can get, and just to be polite. Somebody who is a 5 would be, guess what, AVERAGE. And if all you people who have average (or less) looking significant others, the Dope would be mostly singlesville. I couldn’t have said it better myself. Well, except for the last sentence. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say there. But the first three sentences I wholeheartedly agree with. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/37 "2010-04-13T21:07:44Z")
Dude, you have a five-inch girlfriend? You could probably sneak her in in your coat pocket. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/38 "2010-04-13T21:23:01Z")
**JohnClay** , might I suggest that if you start another topic seeking opinions on your girlfriend in the future, that _in the OP_ you put links to the past topics you’ve started, and disclose that unwritten social rules don’t come naturally to you? It would probably weed out a lot of the sarcastic comments you get in each of these threads. ---
**Author:** ![Furry\_Mongoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Furry\_Mongoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furry_Mongoose)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/39 "2010-04-13T21:33:15Z")
Honestly, I am convinced JohnClay is just trolling. If this is all true, I can’t believe the OP still has a girlfriend after the previous few threads I’ve seen. I’d love to know what her honest score of him would be if she saw this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/40 "2010-04-13T21:47:42Z")
> [@I\_Am\_The\_Lorax](#): > > Dude, why are you so stuck on meaningless numerical rankings of people’s physical attributes? She needs someone who values her more, but doesn’t feel the need to put a number on it. So, like a check-plus? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904.md?page=3)