# Should I take my "5" girlfriend to "She's Out Of My League"? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 13, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904 "2010-04-13T00:37:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/41 "2010-04-13T22:00:12Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I want to know, **JohnClay** – if this girl is only a “5”, and a “10” came along and wanted you, would you dump your girl? If so, you’ve got a lot of thinking to do. It doesn’t make sense that a “10” would want me… and for it to be long term the “10” would need to accept that I have a mental illness, that I have sexual problems, that I don’t want to “go down” on her, etc. Also a few months ago my girlfriend asked if I’m going to dump her again and I said I wouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/42 "2010-04-13T22:03:18Z")
> [@Furry\_Mongoose](#): > > …If this is all true, I can’t believe the OP still has a girlfriend after the previous few threads I’ve seen. Well last night she was saying that people can learn to accept others despite their problems… though she was initially talking about my flatmate and his potential girlfriend. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/43 "2010-04-13T22:53:04Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > It doesn’t make sense that a “10” would want me… and for it to be long term the “10” would need to accept that I have a mental illness, that I have sexual problems, that I don’t want to “go down” on her, etc. Also a few months ago my girlfriend asked if I’m going to dump her again and I said I wouldn’t. That’s not what I asked. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/44 "2010-04-13T23:52:23Z")
Keep in mind that he’s already broken up with this girl once because of what people on the internet said. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/45 "2010-04-14T00:28:56Z")
Just curious – does she give you oral sex? ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/46 "2010-04-14T00:49:30Z")
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**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/47 "2010-04-14T00:56:58Z")
> [@Staggerlee](#): > > Well I’m glad to hear you consider her beautiful, and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being pragmatic about weight loss. He didn’t say he considered her beautiful. He said he sometimes tells her she is, which is not at all the same thing. People don’t go around describing people they honestly think are beautiful as "5"s. > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > I don’t see why. Maybe because dating someone who seems to honestly care for you just because she’s better than nothing and will do until something better comes along is a dick move? Because this girl deserves a lot more than the OP seems willing or able to give her and won’t find it as long as she’s wasting her time with him? ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/48 "2010-04-14T01:03:50Z")
Guinastasia: Once or twice… and she’s given me a handjob in the cinema twice. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/49 "2010-04-14T01:06:25Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > Maybe because dating someone who seems to honestly care for you just because she’s better than nothing and will do until something better comes along is a dick move? I don’t know what you expect to hear. I’ve dated girls knowing that I wouldn’t be spending the rest of my lives with them. You word it harshly, but yes. This is what men and women do all the time. > [@](#): > > Because this girl deserves a lot more than the OP seems willing or able to give her and won’t find it as long as she’s wasting her time with him? He doesn’t seem like the nicest boyfriend, no. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/50 "2010-04-14T01:18:43Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > He didn’t say he considered her beautiful. He said he sometimes tells her she is, which is not at all the same thing. People don’t go around describing people they honestly think are beautiful as "5"s. She looks beautiful sometimes… BTW I think it is possible to recognize that someone isn’t good-looking enough to be a model (e.g. the elephant man) but still see their beauty. > [@](#): > > Maybe because dating someone who seems to honestly care for you just because she’s better than nothing and will do until something better comes along is a dick move? Because this girl deserves a lot more than the OP seems willing or able to give her and won’t find it as long as she’s wasting her time with him? Yeah I think I don’t really deserve her and I did break up with her a while ago for that reason. (and also because I didn’t love her enough but I’ve said “i luv u 2” in some text messages. I used to get obsessed about girls (who didn’t really reciprocate) and btw the infatuation phase of love apparently only lasts about 2 years on average. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/51 "2010-04-14T01:37:48Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I want to know, **JohnClay** – if this girl is only a “5”, and a “10” came along and wanted you, would you dump your girl? If so, you’ve got a lot of thinking to do. What about in romance movies where people dump the bride/groom at the altar? They’re even engaged. I’m not. And apparently lots of people date a few people at once. Anyway my answer is no. “Wanting me” doesn’t sound like it is serious enough. I wouldn’t want to give up what I’ve got now. I am a 5 (or maybe less… I’ve got other problems I haven’t mentioned). If I was in a relationship with a 10 surely she’d be under lots pressure to dump me. Remember that “10” means perfect in every way. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/52 "2010-04-16T10:01:53Z")
Bought her a $100 watch which she picked out (was $225). After she told me my sisters are really pretty I said she was “pretty pretty” and she said I was too and then said I was hot. She looked at a message from her brother which said he loved her. I said (without really any feeling) that I love her. (she said “thanks!” without looking at me) She said the watch was lovely. I said she was lovely and she said thanks as well with no eye contact. At the end of the night I was a lot more affectionate than normal but she was reciprocating. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/53 "2010-04-16T18:11:16Z")
You should take her to that new film “I Can’t Believe People are Going to Fall for This Tool’s Stupid Cries For Attention Yet Again”. It’s really good in IMAX 3D. Like Avatar good I’m told. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/54 "2010-04-16T20:29:07Z")
msmith537: Yeah I’m looking for replies… but I’m not making any of this up (like some believe)… this forum is “For frank exchanges of views on less-than-cosmic topics”. Those less-than-cosmic topics are the movie and my relationship. edit: maybe stuff about my relationship should be in MPSIMS… (I forgot about that) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/55 "2010-04-16T20:47:32Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > You should take her to that new film “I Can’t Believe People are Going to Fall for This Tool’s Stupid Cries For Attention Yet Again”. It’s really good in IMAX 3D. Like Avatar good I’m told. He’s said he’s mentally ill. His writing is consistent with that. Why not show a bit of compassion? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/56 "2010-04-16T22:48:29Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Bought her a $100 watch which she picked out (was $225). After she told me my sisters are really pretty I said she was “pretty pretty” and she said I was too and then said I was hot. She looked at a message from her brother which said he loved her. I said (without really any feeling) that I love her. (she said “thanks!” without looking at me) She said the watch was lovely. I said she was lovely and she said thanks as well with no eye contact. At the end of the night I was a lot more affectionate than normal but she was reciprocating. I’d say she’s fallen for you, brah! Put a ring on that! ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/57 "2010-04-16T23:42:06Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > I’d say she’s fallen for you, brah! Put a ring on that! Keep in mind that this poster has a history of following less than stellar advice from the boards. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/58 "2010-04-17T05:34:11Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > He’s said he’s mentally ill. His writing is consistent with that. Why not show a bit of compassion? Because his writing is also consistent with someone fucking with us for the lulz? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/59 "2010-04-17T05:39:02Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > Keep in mind that this poster has a history of following less than stellar advice from the boards. Well hopefully he’ll take my more than stellar advice, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904/60 "2010-04-17T13:56:25Z")
Sure, he could be someone screwing around for fun. If so, he’s doing an OK job of faking the flat tone and weirdly analytical approach to relationships of someone who has a mental disorder. If he is screwing around, it’s easiest to ignore him. If he’s legit, why monkey with him? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-take-my-5-girlfriend-to-shes-out-of-my-league/535904.md?page=4)