What do you think people did before fridges? Even if it was left with the lid off, I wouldn’t give it a second thought. Boil it up for a couple minutes if you are really worried. If you left it with the lid on, I imagine it was sterile from cooking and would remain so for a long time.
Or the conditions are ideal for any anaerobic bacteria that weren’t destroyed during cooking. Any home canners here who know how hot and how long food needs to cook to destroy C. botulinum spores? Shallots are bulbs grown in dirt, so that would be my primary concern here.
You would not pass a health inspection if you served food that was stored like that (it’s 2 hours max between 40F and 140F). However, I would eat it without thinking twice, especially if it’s been reheated. The responsible fool-proof, I’m-on-the-hook-if-somebody-gets-sick answer is “no, don’t eat it” but I would 100 times out of 100.
It was just my Humble Opinion Mangetout, and I thought I gave enough caveats (which you didn’t include in the quote) to let the OP take suitable precautions; care to expand on your diagnosis?
If this post comes across as defensive I admit it probably is.
The things that make food stinky do not always make it unsafe and the things that make it unsafe are very often odourless. Advice to the effect “If it smells OK, it’s safe” is simply incorrect.
Oh, then I’m misremembering. I could swear it was 2 hours in the 40-140F range, never heard this 70F thing, but maybe they changed the rules or it was simplified for us back when I worked around food.
Very true, but we’re talking about lamb bourguignon, not kimchi, 1000-year-old eggs or the many fish dishes that are pungent. It was cooked with tomatoes, a good red and shallots and I’m not familiar with any dishes with those included that will poison you without giving tell-tale signs.
Of course botulism has horrid, long-lasting side-effects and should be avoided at all costs. If I was in the same position as the OP - having left an open container of a lamb dish for 5 hours - I would also be worried about consuming it. I think we’ve been conditioned to think that throwing away food is bad; our parents and grandparents couldn’t afford to and the more recent awareness of those starving in many countries makes us feel guilty about wasting anything.
But many people here have raised the point of keeping lunch at room temp for hours without any side-effects; are we becoming too careful? Should our immune systems sometimes face a challenge?
I’m not talking about those things either. The bacteria that cause food to spoil and smell are not necessarily very toxic and the bacteria that will cause food poisoning are not especially odorous (especially at the doses that will cause trouble). If the smell test was worth a damn, people would never get food poisoning.
What would be the point? You can’t develop immunity to most intestinal bacterial pathogens.
Ironically, I’m more aware than many as to how the next bite may kill me. I have to be, if I’m going to eat everything (as if that were actually true).
I would eat it without hesitation. As others have recommended I would scrape off the top, just because of possible dust/insects since it was uncovered.
On the other hand I probably would not serve it to my kids. My stomach is a lot less sensitive than their stomaches are. (Actually, I wouldn’t serve it to them because of the wine, but that’s another issue.)
When I was a kid people frequently ate lunch meat sandwiches that had sat around all day. And the janitor would often stop by classrooms with his bucket of shavings to sop up puke late in the afternoon too. Weird how kids would so often get a “stomach bug” a few hours after lunch.
That seems a bit odd to me, as lunch meats are usually so pumped full of salt and nitrates/nitrites you don’t even have to store them in the fridge. I mean, lunch meats basically come from preservation techniques. One ham I made I had hanging in my basement for nine months before I cut into it and ate it. (And, personally, I don’t remember the janitor coming around often at all to mop up vomit.)
Five hours of a lamb dish going from hot to a 55 F room temp and you think it’s gone bad? “No” is the answer. I routinely leave just cooked meat stews out overnight to cool so they will not overwhelm the fridge and put them in the fridge the next morning. I have never had an issue. Heat and eat.
If it was fish or something with mayo and eggs on a summer day you might have a concern but given the time and temps involved and the type of food the risk is infinitesimal.
As long as it was thoroughly cooked in the first place, I wouldn’t give it a second thought. But I’m one of those crazy risk takers who packs a lunch and leaves it unrefrigerated in my bag until I eat it since I was a child. These days, the way my shift goes sometimes, that’s 8 hours later. Big deal.
I also cook stews often and leave them in the dutch oven on the stove overnight frequently. My kitchen is usually in the 70’s. It’s just still too hot to put in the fridge when it’s time for bed, so I leave it and put it in the fridge in the morning. Then eat it for the following 4 or 5 days, too. Would I do that with a fish or seafood stew? No. But four-legged or fowl, thoroughly cooked to de-boning itself has not been a problem.