# Should ISU coach Larry Eustachy be fired?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 1, 2003, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361 "2003-05-01T13:04:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361/21 "2003-05-01T22:30:24Z")

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Regardless of the state, a highly-paid basketball coach is held up to a different standard than the rest of us.

The UNLV coach wouldn’t be able to get away with this sort of behavior. (Not that I can picture Charlie Spoonhouer doing that).

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361/22 "2003-05-02T03:25:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by beagledave \*  
> \*\*People who confuse “Iowa” with “Iowa State” should be shot on principle.
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> Bastard. \*\*

Right. The principle, and all. Gotcha. One thousand apologies! :rolleyes:

\*\*edited on preview to remove profanity. Get over yourself.

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**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361/23 "2003-05-02T13:23:38Z")

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Methinks mouthbreather has the tension knob turned about 3 twists too high right now.

That would have been an equally funny, and applicable, line if someone had confused Georgia with Georgia Tech.

As for the ISU story, turns out, [now, an ISU assistant](http://espn.go.com/ncb/news/2003/0501/1548145.html) is in hot water.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361/24 "2003-05-02T13:33:22Z")

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Mully, I don’t care enough about UGA or Tech to call someone I don’t even know a bastard if they confused the two.  
If he was kidding, I’ll glady turn the tension knob down 10 notches. Since we (beagle and I) haven’t had much (any?) interaction before, a smiley along with the “Bastard” comment may have helped.

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**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361/25 "2003-05-02T13:50:04Z")

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Just using two local shools as an example of the reference. You may not care abuot the schools, but surely you know about the concept of a rivalry between them.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361/26 "2003-05-02T14:22:52Z")

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I understand. No big deal either way – as you said, I overreacted.

Apologies for my short temper, as I’m going to assume he meant that in good fun.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361/27 "2003-05-02T14:41:32Z")

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You know, I was going to say they’re within their rights to fire him - and they certainly can do so - but voguevixen has a point. I’m very concerned with this trend in recent years where people are working for their company at all times. Why is that? Where did all this stuff about people having to represent their employer and put forth the right come from? I think you do a job for your employer, they don’t own you. This might sound like a rant, but I think we’re seeing more and more of it. Eustachy didn’t break any laws and I don’t see this affecting his job performance except for the fact that it’s becoming a big news story. What he did looks pretty stupid to me to be sure: parties within a department are one thing, but this is a 50-year-old partying with kids he doesn’t know. A little sad, perhaps. For the record, I don’t particularly trust his revelation about his alcoholism either. But still.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361/28 "2003-05-02T15:33:44Z")

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> Where did all this stuff about people having to represent their employer and put forth the right come from? I think you do a job for your employer, they don’t own you.

This isn’t just some “guy” who has just “some” job. This is a highly public figure in the state paid a lot of money to act as a highly visible representative of an institution that has standards of behavior, particularly since he is seen as an authority figure, role model, and spokesperson. I did not have a tenth of his authority when I worked for a major University (overseeing students in a Student Affairs position, both role model & disciplinarian), but there was little doubt what the consequences of my actions would be if I were caught in a situation he was.

He needs to be shown the Exit ASAP.

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**Author:** ![chukhung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@chukhung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chukhung)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361/29 "2003-05-02T18:00:26Z")

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Here’s another example of a college football coach who knows how to party down. From this recent article on the New York Times’ web-site (free registration required), [http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/02/sports/ncaafootball/02ALAB.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/02/sports/ncaafootball/02ALAB.html)

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> Try as he might, [University of Alabama President Dr. Robert E.] Witt will find it difficult to alter Alabama’s image any time soon, especially now that the latest reports of sybaritic partying involve not students but the Crimson Tide’s football coach, Mike Price.
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> Price, who took over in January, is under investigation by the university, as published reports in Alabama said he recently spent hundreds of a dollars at a strip club in Florida, part of it in the company of an exotic dancer named Destiny. The next day, reports said, a woman tried to charge $1,000 in food and drinks to the coach’s hotel bill after ordering one of each item on the menu.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-isu-coach-larry-eustachy-be-fired/172361/30 "2003-05-02T18:27:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ArchiveGuy \*  
> \*\*This isn’t just some “guy” who has just “some” job. This is a highly public figure in the state paid a lot of money to act as a highly visible representative of an institution that has standards of behavior, particularly since he is seen as an authority figure, role model, and spokesperson. I did not have a tenth of his authority when I worked for a major University (overseeing students in a Student Affairs position, both role model & disciplinarian), but there was little doubt what the consequences of my actions would be if I were caught in a situation he was.
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> He needs to be shown the Exit ASAP. \*\*

Why? Seriously, why? He didn’t break any laws. Did he buy beer for underage players, fuck the co-eds or drive home drunk? No. He’s a basketball coach, and he hung out with basketball players. I honestly fail to see what the fuss is about.

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