# Should loosing your wallet be punishable with house arrest?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-loosing-your-wallet-be-punishable-with-house-arrest/464682
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [September 22, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-loosing-your-wallet-be-punishable-with-house-arrest/464682 "2008-09-22T14:56:24Z")
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### Author: ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-loosing-your-wallet-be-punishable-with-house-arrest/464682/21 "2008-09-23T17:52:39Z")

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Apologies if I misinterpreted **bobthebuilder** ’s statement. The cite states that you are required to give your name when asked, but it doesn’t say that you have to produce id, and only when the officer has a “reasonable suspicion” that some crime has been committed. From the bottom of page 2 of the opinion:

“…the Nevada Supreme Court has interpreted NRS §171.123(3) to require only that a suspect disclose his name. See 118 Nev., at \_\_\_, 59 P.3d, at 1206 (opinion of Young, C. J.) (“The suspect is not required to provide private details about his background, but merely to state his name to an officer when reasonable suspicion exists”). As we understand it, the statute does not require a suspect to give the officer a driver’s license or any other document. Provided that the suspect either states his name or communicates it to the officer by other means–a choice, we assume, that the suspect may make–the statute is satisfied and no violation occurs.”

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### Author: ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-loosing-your-wallet-be-punishable-with-house-arrest/464682/22 "2008-09-23T18:00:54Z")

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The broader question would be, is one required to ever obtain ID? (For driving purposes, yes, but in general, is it a legal requirement for one to have ID?) Is is legally required that one have a social security number (let’s just say for sake of argument that they are not working or paying income tax). Are we required to have “papers”?

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### Author: ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-loosing-your-wallet-be-punishable-with-house-arrest/464682/23 "2008-09-23T18:10:20Z")

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> [@nyctea scandiaca](#):
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> The broader question would be, is one required to ever obtain ID? (For driving purposes, yes, but in general, is it a legal requirement for one to have ID?) Is is legally required that one have a social security number (let’s just say for sake of argument that they are not working or paying income tax). Are we required to have “papers”?

To appy for a job with a temporary employment agency, you have to have either a passport or a driver’s lic. or 2 of these: SS Card, birth certificate and something else I can’t remember right now.

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### Author: ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-loosing-your-wallet-be-punishable-with-house-arrest/464682/24 "2008-09-24T01:38:58Z")

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This is why we need bar codes on our necks like the guy in _Hitman_.

:nods sagely:

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### Author: ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-loosing-your-wallet-be-punishable-with-house-arrest/464682/25 "2008-09-24T04:58:57Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> The debate I’m posing is: Should it be illegal to not have ID on you at all times?  
> My position is: fuck no!

Agreed.

At one time (in Ohio) you only needed to know your driver license number. Not sure if that holds true today. I have a terrible time searching the laws of ohio on the net.

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### Author: ![bobthebuilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobthebuilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobthebuilder)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-loosing-your-wallet-be-punishable-with-house-arrest/464682/26 "2008-09-24T05:16:29Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> Unfortunately, the Supreme Court disagrees with you. Check the cite that **Whack-a-Mole** provided.
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> Minor grammar note: you mean e.g., not a.k.a.

I was more thinking on an ethical, or the way I wish it was, not a legal way.

Thanks for the note on grammar, one of the reasons I have started posting here is to help my linguistic skills.

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