# Should March 8 be A Day Without Men Day? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315 "2017-02-20T13:57:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/101 "2017-02-20T19:13:11Z")
Does anyone believe **LK** is _not_ a troll after this little performance? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/102 "2017-02-20T19:27:51Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The seed for this idea, if you will, was originally a day without Men Without Hats. It was quickly realized that most days were like that already. Everybody, look at your hands. We can dance if we want to! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/103 "2017-02-20T19:29:02Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > A world without men day is something that women everywhere would probably celebrate well into next day, or next week, or even next century. Who will take out the garbage? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/104 "2017-02-20T19:41:19Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > -Overall economic impact on the nation, if you look at all that women contribute, including housework and most importantly childcare, is likely to be greater if women take the day off from all of their duties Childcare is pretty key. How many men would not be able to go into work if all teachers and childcare providers took the day off work? How many infants would die from a day of not being cared for by their moms? ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/105 "2017-02-20T19:49:55Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Excellent! You can take Linus! I’m sure you’ll be very happy together! Kind of a non-sequitur, but I infer your comment was meant to insult Patx. Because she likes men. How egalitarian of you. ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/106 "2017-02-20T19:53:22Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > All rhetoric aside, all men taking a day off from work would likely have a substantially larger impact on the nation and economy than all women taking a day off from work. Careful… (we’re not supposed to notice that.) ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/107 "2017-02-20T19:54:52Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The seed for this idea, if you will, was originally a day without Men Without Hats. It was quickly realized that most days were like that already. Everybody, look at your hands. Are you sure? I thought it was a day without Men at Work - I was going to run and take cover. ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/108 "2017-02-20T19:58:58Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > It would have been locked and you would have been warned. Evidence of the lameness of the moderators here. ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/109 "2017-02-20T20:02:00Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > On the bright side, this thread is a break from the 8,926 other Pit threads on He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Toupee’d; it’s nice to have a change of topic. I don’t visit the pit, normally. I don’t suppose anybody defends The Donald? Echo much in here? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/110 "2017-02-20T20:02:27Z")
Anyone remember what the policy is about where you can complain about the mods? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/111 "2017-02-20T20:04:57Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > As evidence: This thread hasn’t been locked. > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Well, this thread isn’t interesting. Vaguely amusing, yes. OTOH, you have to work pretty hard to get a thread locked in the Pit. **LK** used to at least _try_ with his screeds. These last 3 were pathetic: No men = no tech support? Weak. I thought it might have been a reference to the [Raven Paradox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_paradox): A) Proposal: All interesting threads are locked. B) One way to find this out is to find all unlocked threads: if any of them are interesting, then A) has been falsified. If none of them are interesting, then we have proven A) through the process of elimination. C) This thread is uninteresting: this is evidence of B). ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/112 "2017-02-20T20:05:24Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Only straight, white, Christian men. I hope the HELL you’re joking !! ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/113 "2017-02-20T20:18:16Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > (way to bring the Pit down with an actual discussion **Velocity** :p) > > There actually not a lot of good data out there. What I can find is older. This NBC News story from 2011 references Bureau of Labor Statistics and states that: > > [Cite](http://www.nbcnews.com/id/41914274/ns/business-us_business/t/women-now-backbone-american-economy/#.WKs13FecGP0) > > Think Progress reports some additional numbers from a story on a report from the Center for American Progress from 2014, including the data point that “women’s contribution to GDP also translates to more than $1.7 trillion in greater output.” > > [Cite](https://thinkprogress.org/the-economy-is-11-percent-bigger-thanks-to-womens-work-ae2bf81888a7#.iz0najcci) > > I think you can only take certain parts of this statement to be true: > > -Economic impact from work will be greater for men than women = true, given higher presence of men and given wage disparity looking only at working men and working women (I’m not sure that it’s “substantial” any longer) > -Overall economic impact on the nation, if you look at all that women contribute, including housework and most importantly childcare, is likely to be greater if women take the day off from all of their duties According to the [BLS](https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat08.htm), 63,943,000 million men work 35 hours a week or more, compared to 46,597,000 women. Which would mean - if my math is right, which is always open to question - a man is almost 40% more likely to have to work full time than a woman. ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/114 "2017-02-20T20:20:40Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > I think it’s safe to say that this was the loudest whoosh in the history of the board. I mean, we’re talking about a full squadron of B-1’s all busting through the sound barrier at a height of 10 feet kind of whoosh. What’s a “whoosh”? ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/115 "2017-02-20T20:21:38Z")
Arrgh. I was ready for this passive aggressive bullshit thread last night, and it launches at 9am Monday morning. Figures. ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/116 "2017-02-20T20:22:47Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Does anyone believe **LK** is _not_ a troll after this little performance? Me? ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/117 "2017-02-20T20:24:20Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Anyone remember what the policy is about where you can complain about the mods? I wonder who wrote it? ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/118 "2017-02-20T20:25:13Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > Kind of a non-sequitur, but I infer your comment was meant to insult Patx. Because she likes men. > > How egalitarian of you. Well, yeah, you would say that, what with you being a disingenuous moron. It’s totally the kind of thing you would say. But mostly, I just want you to go. You said you were going to go your own way and stop caring about what women want. So why are you still here, whining endlessly about women? Go, already. Nobody’s stopping you from leaving. Nobody’s going to miss you when you’re gone. So stop blithering and go your own way. If Patx will take you, she’s more than welcome to you. Take your own way and go. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/119 "2017-02-20T20:29:03Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > I wonder who wrote it? I imagine the people who have control over the board. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/120 "2017-02-20T20:29:15Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > According to the [BLS](https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat08.htm), 63,943,000 million men work 35 hours a week or more, compared to 46,597,000 women. Which would mean - if my math is right, which is always open to question - a man is almost 40% more likely to have to work full time than a woman. 1. A lot of women provide unpaid or off-the-books childcare. This is not a job that can wait for a day. If this childcare is not provided for a day, fatalities result. 2. A lot of kids in these situations have backup measures consisting solely of other women. If all women took the day off, there’d be no backup measures. 3. A lot of men aren’t normally part of the backup measures for childcare, but would suddenly have to be if women took the day off. A lot of men therefore would also “take the day off” from their normal job, in order to do the childcare jobs taken care of by women. At my school, there are maybe eight or nine men working, out of a staff of around 40. None of us work in the cafeteria, or in the preschool class, or in fourth or fifth grade. If the women at my school took the day off, each of us would be responsible for roughly 60-70 kids, including kids we didn’t know well, including kids with serious health needs. We wouldn’t be able to feed them. And my school has got way more dudes working here than a lot of schools, where there may be only two or three dudes. If you think that women taking the day off en masse wouldn’t result in catastrophe, you’re an idiot. Which, y’know, okay. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315.md?page=7)