# Should March 8 be A Day Without Men Day? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315 "2017-02-20T13:57:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/121 "2017-02-20T20:38:35Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Does anyone believe **LK** is _not_ a troll after this little performance? If i had had any doubt this would have removed it. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/122 "2017-02-20T20:49:16Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > According to the [BLS](https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat08.htm), 63,943,000 million men work 35 hours a week or more, compared to 46,597,000 women. Which would mean - if my math is right, which is always open to question - a man is almost 40% more likely to have to work full time than a woman. Clearly this is the reason you’re such a pathetic loser. If only it weren’t for those damnable women… ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/123 "2017-02-20T20:51:11Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > Me? Even you’re not convinced. ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/124 "2017-02-20T20:56:51Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > According to the [BLS](https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat08.htm), 63,943,000 million men work 35 hours a week or more, compared to 46,597,000 women. Which would mean - if my math is right, which is always open to question - a man is almost 40% more likely to have to work full time than a woman. Interestingly, the data varies significantly by race. white men: 51,333 white women: 35,331 difference: 16,002 % men more likely to work: 45.3% black men: 6,616 black women: 6,722 difference: -106 % **women** more likely to work: 1.6% Asian men: 4,055 Asian women: 3,065 difference: 990 % men more likely to work: 32.3% It looks like it’s black women who really need the day off. White women, on the other hand… not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/125 "2017-02-20T21:05:18Z")
Oh, I see we’ve moved to the race baiting portion of this troll’s patter. How predictable. ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/126 "2017-02-20T21:16:07Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > 1. A lot of women provide unpaid or off-the-books childcare. This is not a job that can wait for a day. If this childcare is not provided for a day, fatalities result. > 2. A lot of kids in these situations have backup measures consisting solely of other women. If all women took the day off, there’d be no backup measures. > 3. A lot of men aren’t normally part of the backup measures for childcare, but would suddenly have to be if women took the day off. A lot of men therefore would also “take the day off” from their normal job, in order to do the childcare jobs taken care of by women. > > At my school, there are maybe eight or nine men working, out of a staff of around 40. None of us work in the cafeteria, or in the preschool class, or in fourth or fifth grade. If the women at my school took the day off, each of us would be responsible for roughly 60-70 kids, including kids we didn’t know well, including kids with serious health needs. We wouldn’t be able to feed them. > > And my school has got way more dudes working here than a lot of schools, where there may be only two or three dudes. > > If you think that women taking the day off en masse wouldn’t result in catastrophe, you’re an idiot. Which, y’know, okay. Where did I say that women taking the day off wouldn’t result in catastrophe? You can look, but you won’t find it. The only people saying stupid things like that are **RivkahChaya:** > [@](#): > > Personally, I wouldn’t mind a day without men. And **asahi:** > [@](#): > > A world without men day is something that women everywhere would probably celebrate well into next day, or next week, or even next century. Only feminists say idiotic things like that. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/127 "2017-02-20T21:18:35Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > (way to bring the Pit down with an actual discussion **Velocity** :p) > > There actually not a lot of good data out there. What I can find is older. This NBC News story from 2011 references Bureau of Labor Statistics and states that: > > [Cite](http://www.nbcnews.com/id/41914274/ns/business-us_business/t/women-now-backbone-american-economy/#.WKs13FecGP0) > > Think Progress reports some additional numbers from a story on a report from the Center for American Progress from 2014, including the data point that “women’s contribution to GDP also translates to more than $1.7 trillion in greater output.” > > [Cite](https://thinkprogress.org/the-economy-is-11-percent-bigger-thanks-to-womens-work-ae2bf81888a7#.iz0najcci) > > I think you can only take certain parts of this statement to be true: > > -Economic impact from work will be greater for men than women = true, given higher presence of men and given wage disparity looking only at working men and working women (I’m not sure that it’s “substantial” any longer) > -Overall economic impact on the nation, if you look at all that women contribute, including housework and most importantly childcare, is likely to be greater if women take the day off from all of their duties I see, I stand corrected now. However, I would also surmise that men make the large majority of medical, emergency or national defense related occupations without which the nation might really suffer. I believe that the large majority of firefighters, paramedics, surgeons, police officers, air traffic controllers, airline pilots, nuclear-reactor operators, 911 dispatchers, military personnel, for instance, are male. Take those away and we are looking at potentially a _The Purge_ level national crisis. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/128 "2017-02-20T21:30:49Z")
Any substantial portion of the population disappearing would lead to an economic disaster, whether it’s men, women, immigrants, or Harry Potter fans. Currently, men are disproportionately represented in hard, dirty and dangerous jobs, or jobs that build or maintain infrastructure or the flow of goods. For example, construction of all stripes, electrical line installation, trucking, sanitation, logging, mining, metal working, oil rig worker, commercial fishing, police, fire and rescue, military, dock workers, environmental clean up, and so on. Historically, women performed a fair amount of hard or dangerous labor, such as stoop agriculture or factory work (back before OSHA was a thing). There are places in Africa where women walk for hours through sweltering heat to fetch water for their family. When large amounts of men go off to war the women have to fill the void. So it’s not as if they can’t do these jobs, if they were required to do so. There would be a difficult transition, as the low number of female participants in the above industries would have to train new women in large numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/129 "2017-02-20T21:40:45Z")
**Velocity** What if we look at this way and agree to move on: men are more highly represented in some fields (military, construction, firefighters), women are more highly represented in others (education), both are present in medicine, business, law, service industries, etc and society is fucked without both of them. How’s that? We need everyone. The only person in this thread who really doesn’t think so, as far as I can tell, is **Linus**. You good, or are you with **Linus** on the “men don’t get no love” train? ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/130 "2017-02-20T21:41:12Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > I don’t visit the pit, normally. > > I don’t suppose anybody defends The Donald? > > Echo much in here? Heck, I’m not defending him! I’m just saying that the Pit’s rather repetitive these days. A half-wit misogynist is almost a breath of fresh air. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/131 "2017-02-20T21:47:08Z")
> [@yezlles](#): > > My! Looks like someone has taken the red pill. Looks more like [“crushed the red and blue pills together and snorted them”](https://xkcd.com/566/) to me. ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/132 "2017-02-20T21:47:44Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > **Velocity** What if we look at this way and agree to move on: men are more highly represented in some fields (military, construction, firefighters), women are more highly represented in others (education), both are present in medicine, business, law, service industries, etc and society is fucked without both of them. How’s that? We need everyone. The only person in this thread who really doesn’t think so, as far as I can tell, is **Linus**. You good, or are you with **Linus** on the “men don’t get no love” train? Uh, I quoted above the people who think we don’t need everyone, and they aren’t me. ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/133 "2017-02-20T21:52:13Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Heck, I’m not defending him! I’m just saying that the Pit’s rather repetitive these days. A half-wit misogynist is almost a breath of fresh air. I’m glad you think I’m a breath of fresh air. I’m curious why you think I’m misogynist, though. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/134 "2017-02-20T22:01:09Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > Personally I think it would be awesome. > > I just hope I don’t need tech support that day. Why would it be awesome? What point of protest would be made? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/135 "2017-02-20T22:28:02Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > What’s a “whoosh”? It’s that thing what you try but can’t but gets done to you all, like, the time. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/136 "2017-02-20T22:53:46Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > Some women do. I’ve met a lot of them, actually. It’s amazing how many women become lesbians when you’re around them. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/137 "2017-02-20T23:04:31Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > It’s amazing how many women become lesbians when you’re around them. I think it’s fairly obvious that anyone who hates women as much as **LinusK** does must be motivated by the fact that women universally loathe him. One can only assume that the women have good reason. Based on his online _persona_, my guess would be that in addition to being a hateful bigot, **LinusK** has all the charm and attraction of a hemorrhoidal eruption in an orangutang’s asshole. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/138 "2017-02-20T23:11:10Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Heck, I’m not defending him! I’m just saying that the Pit’s rather repetitive these days. A half-wit misogynist is almost a breath of fresh air. anything not about SCROTUS is a nice change ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/139 "2017-02-21T00:11:32Z")
> [@yezlles](#): > > Oh, look what I found when I googled it. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18807758&postcount=456](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18807758&postcount=456) **LinusK** , does this proof that you were lying about not knowing what “red pill” means cause you great embarrassment? It should. Do you routinely lie, or just when you want to troll? Or is lying kind of uncontrollable for you? I know some people just lie for no reason. Are you a calculated liar or a compulsive liar? ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-march-8-be-a-day-without-men-day/780315/140 "2017-02-21T00:46:51Z")
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