# Should Mom-and-Pops That Forgo Gay Weddings Be Destroyed? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 3, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716 "2015-04-03T16:37:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/321 "2015-04-09T20:17:41Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > I’ve never heard of cheating people with scams like palm reading and chicken entrail reading referred to as art forms either. So? > > Also, do you ask people if they’re adopted and then refuse to do business with them because they’re werewolves\*? > > \*or vampires. I forgot which one you said. I certainly avoid doing business with people who are adopters. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/322 "2015-04-09T20:20:36Z")
This thread is reminding me of a Bart vs Lisa Simpson’s episode. “Stop Pitting yourself! Stop Pitting yourself!” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/323 "2015-04-09T20:21:46Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I believe current science says either such creature doesn’t probably exist “Probably”? Edit: “Current” science? Edit: You “believe”? Exactly how hedged does your bet need to be on the existence of vampires and werewolves? ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/324 "2015-04-09T20:24:05Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Get your history straight, my grandparents believed illegitimate kids became vampires or possibly werewolves depending on their ethnicity and family history. That level of supernatural belief wasn’t uncommon among people a few generations ago. The last vampire exhumation in the United States was in New England in the late Victorian Era and they are still being done in rural parts of the Balkans and Eastern Europe. I believe current science says either such creature doesn’t probably exist and put them in the category of the Loch Ness monster and Bigfoot. “probably” LOL ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/325 "2015-04-09T20:36:28Z")
Hush non-believers. She’s saying there is still a ray of hope that I might find my future sexy werewolf wife someday. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/326 "2015-04-09T20:39:03Z")
It would be cool if vampires existed though. I’d love to stop aging… ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/327 "2015-04-09T20:57:42Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I certainly avoid doing business with people who are adopters. Tech-wise I tend to be an early adopter. But I’m white. And a Pisces. Whadayasay? ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/328 "2015-04-09T21:16:38Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I believe current science says either such creature doesn’t probably exist and put them in the category of the Loch Ness monster and Bigfoot. And I’m not playing at their wedding either! ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/329 "2015-04-09T23:26:56Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > This thread is reminding me of a Bart vs Lisa Simpson’s episode. “Stop Pitting yourself! Stop Pitting yourself!” I don’t think there is anymore conversation to be had with her in this thread. It’s been a long hijack. If anyone is so inclined to continue a pit thread would be a better place. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/330 "2015-04-09T23:35:04Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > I don’t think there is anymore conversation to be had with her in this thread. It’s been a long hijack. If anyone is so inclined to continue a pit thread would be a better place. Agreed. I’m stopping my hijack participation and should have done so earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/331 "2015-04-10T07:29:14Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Right? I hope if I’m drunk or demented enough to seek out palm reading or some other mumbo-jumbo bullshit, the proprietor will discriminate the shit out of me. > > WWJD? Jesus would cater the bejesus out of that gay wedding. He’d even whip up an awesome holy cake. Christians are the worst. No, Jesus would be in charge of the wine, remember? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/332 "2015-04-10T12:50:41Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Right? I hope if I’m drunk or demented enough to seek out palm reading or some other mumbo-jumbo bullshit, the proprietor will discriminate the shit out of me. > > WWJD? Jesus would cater the bejesus out of that gay wedding. He’d even whip up an awesome holy cake. Christians are the worst. I posed the What Would Jesus the Wedding Caterer Do question to a friend earlier this week, and his response was “He’d turn some water into wine and keep the party going!” Whoops, just saw the post above mine …ninjaed! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/333 "2015-04-10T16:08:14Z")
I found [this gorgeous blog post](http://tenthousandplaces.org/2015/04/01/bake-for-them-two/) yesterday and I thought I’d share a snippet: > [@](#): > > **If someone forces you to bake a cake for a gay wedding, bake for them two.** > > Christians, our Jesus said to not only follow the law, but to rise to a higher standard of love. Christians should be the FIRST people baking cakes — for everyone who asks us. We should be known for our cake baking. People should be saying, “There go those crazy Christians again, baking cakes for everyone. They just won’t quit!” Then, when we share the reason for our wild, all-inclusive love, people will want to hear it. “Let your light shine before others,” said Jesus, “that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven. > > Christians, when we dig our heels in and insist on our right to discriminate, we are hurting people — we are hurting so many people, so deeply. Behind the ACLU and the liberal media are real people, who have been hurt again and again in the name of Christ. Christians, you and I have hurt them. I know most of us have really good intentions, but we are making Jesus the last thing they want to hear about. > > If we “snatch one person from the fire” by refusing to condone behavior we believe is immoral, but send hundreds and thousands of others fleeing churches and Christianity entirely, what have we really accomplished? Someone else will make that cake and fewer and fewer people will look to Christianity for love and hope. We will have won a battle that we were never called to fight in the first place, but lost the war. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/334 "2015-04-10T20:38:37Z")
That was truly beautiful! There was something similar in a Christian Newsletter, locally, during the debate over a cross on public land. The Minister (!) said not to put crosses on public land, because that’s coercive, but to put one on your private land. Decorate every house, who wants; put them in your yard, your field, your tree. Put them up with pride…in those places you own. But do not put them up in places you do not. Every now and then, someone gets it. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716/335 "2015-04-10T22:06:23Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > That was truly beautiful! Yeah, except for the “behind the ACLU and liberal media” bit. Felt a little like someone who couldn’t resist being entirely divisive. I do like the sentiment though. I’m just too cynical though. I can’t help but think that if Christians really could be that way, they would. I mean, they’ve been at this thing for a little while now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-mom-and-pops-that-forgo-gay-weddings-be-destroyed/716716.md?page=16)