# Should officials continue to encourage restrictions for vaccinated people? Should they expect such restrictions to be followed?

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 29, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-officials-continue-to-encourage-restrictions-for-vaccinated-people-should-they-expect-such-restrictions-to-be-followed/931817 "2021-01-29T22:10:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-officials-continue-to-encourage-restrictions-for-vaccinated-people-should-they-expect-such-restrictions-to-be-followed/931817/41 "2021-01-31T03:11:25Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> My point is that often people are seeing things only from their point of view. When policies are put in place, they are necessarily making value judgments about the population as a whole, not what’s best for an individual. Sometimes, that looks horribly unfair to certain viewpoints.

Agreed.

If you don’t let people without a vaccine card (checked against photo ID) in to see grandma, the people is the demonstration that today stopped the vaccinations at Dodger Stadium will see it was horribly unfair.

But maybe half a dozen other people, who aren’t so fanatical in their vaccine reluctance, will have taken the jabs.

As for “Vaccination is not a panacea,” that’s true for the flu. It’s not true for some other diseases, like the measles. And it looks like COVID vaccination effectiveness is closer to measles than flu.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-officials-continue-to-encourage-restrictions-for-vaccinated-people-should-they-expect-such-restrictions-to-be-followed/931817/42 "2021-01-31T03:18:55Z")

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Is it though?

> **Will the COVID vaccine prevent me from infecting others?**

> The answer is, we don’t know.

> Clinical trials of the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines found that both do a good job preventing symptomatic COVID-19 disease, including severe COVID-19. However, the trials did not measure whether a person who is vaccinated is less likely to spread the virus to someone else.

[Coronavirus Resource Center - Harvard Health](https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/coronavirus-resource-center#:~:text=The%20answer%20is%2C%20we,virus%20to%20someone%20else).

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**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-officials-continue-to-encourage-restrictions-for-vaccinated-people-should-they-expect-such-restrictions-to-be-followed/931817/43 "2021-01-31T10:39:30Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Cancer is much more deadly than COVID.

Of course, but cancer isn’t contagious.

And, as the article says, there will never be “a” cure for cancer because cancer covers a multitude of conditions. Somehow people just love conspiracy theories, and the Internet has given them a platform.

The true power of computers.

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**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-officials-continue-to-encourage-restrictions-for-vaccinated-people-should-they-expect-such-restrictions-to-be-followed/931817/44 "2021-01-31T10:48:22Z")

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“No, the general consensus is that, while it’s not inconceivable that it works that way, it’s far more likely that it works like the vaccine for almost every other disease, and protects against both illness and transmission.”

The general consensus is that the vaccinated person cannot infect other people personally, but can carry the virus on his hands, clothing and other objects. There is some debate as to whether a vaccinated person could carry the virus for a while in his nasal passages after coming into close contact with an infected person.

Whatever the situation, it is necessary to maintain the precautions. It is not just a matter of personal opinion, but the risk of carrying the infection to others.

A number of restrictions are due to be lifted here in Poland next week, mainly concerning shops and schools. They did the same last October, and the numbers exploded two weeks later. Duh.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-officials-continue-to-encourage-restrictions-for-vaccinated-people-should-they-expect-such-restrictions-to-be-followed/931817/45 "2021-01-31T12:44:23Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> The best option is to leave the protocols in place and adjust them as you would based on cases and positivity rates. Just as you would without vaccines.

Without hope for vaccines, there would not have been political support needed for any protocol. Eventually, we will go back to normal, and if vaccination hasn’t become a social norm, so much the worse.

Nursing home protocols have failed in this pandemic and need to change (for example, by making the full suite of immunizations, including recommended boosters, a job requirement).

I’m more concerned about a vaccine refuser being an employee who cares for grandma than her being visited by someone with a completed vaccine card that was photo-verified at the front desk.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-officials-continue-to-encourage-restrictions-for-vaccinated-people-should-they-expect-such-restrictions-to-be-followed/931817/46 "2021-02-02T17:59:34Z")

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Relevant to the discussion:

> **[Many who have received the coronavirus vaccine wonder: What can I safely do?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/02/01/vaccinated-people-precautions/)**
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> Now that vaccines are here, the newly inoculated wonder: How do I interact with people who are not vaccinated?

Wapo’s paywall is already fake, but I believe they’ve removed it entirely for COVID articles. Holler if you’re having trouble accessing.

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**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-officials-continue-to-encourage-restrictions-for-vaccinated-people-should-they-expect-such-restrictions-to-be-followed/931817/47 "2021-02-12T22:26:49Z")

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> **[Dr. Fauci: It will be ‘open season’ by April for everyone to receive vaccines](https://www.today.com/video/dr-fauci-it-will-be-open-season-by-april-for-everyone-to-receive-vaccines-100848197965)**
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> Dr. Anthony Fauci tells TODAY that the pace of coronavirus vaccinations will pick up “as we get into March and April” and that by April, it will be “open season” for all groups to receive shots. He says that while the U.K. variant does spread more...

At 5:25 Dr. Fauci is asked what the protocol is if a son/daughter wants to visit their parents and both have been fully vaccinated. He says that no masks and hugging is fine. Good to hear coming from him.

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