# Should President Obama pardon Chelsea Manning?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 14, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-president-obama-pardon-chelsea-manning/772003 "2016-11-14T21:38:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-president-obama-pardon-chelsea-manning/772003/19 "2016-11-15T15:34:47Z")

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> Why not, specifically?

Because he is a traitor.

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> In other words, what relationship does her crime have to the use of a pronoun?

Because some crimes are so morally egregious as to disqualify the criminal from being treated with respect.

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> It seems to me that if you argue that the pronoun is not an accurate one, we can discuss that. But you seem to be suggesting that, but for her offense, you’d agree that she is a she and not a he. I don’t follow this reasoning.

I am not speaking to the general case of whether or not it is part of common decency to refer to someone with his or her preferred gender. Because in this case it is irrelevant. Suppose it is part of common decency - traitors are not entitled to common decency. Suppose it isn’t - traitors are still not entitled.

Regards,  
Shodan

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