Even if this is true, so friggin what? You now want to use the power of the state so you don’t feel stifled? That’s ridiculous. People that are different will always be looked at askant. If I show up in any small town with some unusual or exotic garb, people are likely to take notice and view me as an oddity. I might be making them uncomfortable, and the way the look at me might make me uncomfortable.
And your acceptance of this as “normal” and dismissal of any empathy for those who are actually experiencing it is what makes you present yourself as a morally bankrupt, small-minded bigot.
It’s not about a cake. I know you’re obsessed over the fucking cake for some reason. It’s been said and explained repeatedly it isn’t about a cake.
If you steal a dollar from me you have still broken the law. The damages are not limited to a dollar. The act of theft was a violation of my property, privacy and my freedom. If I sued you for this the damages rewarded can be many times the value of the dollar. Damages can be calculated a number of ways.
If you targeted me specifically because a protected class status you have also violated my civil rights.
They were sued because they broke the law. The couples civil rights were violated. They went through the trouble of suing because it is thier right to do so.
I disagree. Racism is alive and well in the US, as demonstrated by Trump’s standing in the polls as well as six years of Republicans acting batshit insane because there’s a black guy in the White House, as well as Republican-controlled states tripping over each other in their sprint to throw up barriers to minority voting. Put up a sign in your restaurant that says “no blacks” and in some parts of the US you’d attract more than you offend.
Back to the cake nonsense. Bakers are like the rest of us. If you run a business open to the public, you have to serve all of the public. If you can’t accept that, don’t go into business.
I’m forgetting the exact details, but didn’t we just have a business receive hundreds of thousands of dollars from donors because the owners refused to do something that violated their religion?
Dammit, my memory is failing me, but I think it goes to show that the internet does not always make failures of people who wish to discriminate. Sometimes, it actually rewards them.
Also, I don’t think equating the KKK with gay people is the right way to go.
There is a difference between being socially uncomfortable around people who are different and using their differences as justification to treat them like second class citizens.
They would use the power of the state so that people like you don’t decide to just find all the oddballs, set fire to their homes and drive them out of town for being odd.
I don’t really see why people should pay any special attention to your “rights”, particularly when you don’t seem to have any interest in anyone else’s.
Sadly, this behavior is “normal”. It’s his awareness of this behavior and continuing it anyway which makes these sort of people morally bankrupt, small-minded bigots.
And they are cowards. Rather than just come out and say “we hate fuckin’ fags”, they hide behind their “religious beliefs” and try and distract from the issue by trying to make it about their “rights” to discriminate.
Some bakers do feel their work is at least a skilled craft. At the very fair extreme of the baker spectrum there are people who describe their work as confectionary art and consider themselves artists. Some one like this could probably make a legally defensible argument that they should be allowed to choose to whom they sell their art or expend their creative energies upon.
We already know that you cannot refuse service based on race, what theory would you use to trump that principle?
If an entire community wants to shun a gay couple to drive them out of town (I wonder what made them move to a place like that to begin with) then I suppose there isn’t much we can do to force them to welcome the gay couple with open arms.
The status of gay marriage was not put into question by religious conservatives it was preserved by religious conservatives. I don’t believe we had gay marriage in 1776 or at any point between then and few years ago. Its a constitutionally protected right but one that was not clear to anyone until recently.
So there is a bakery nearby called the new Canaan Bakery. The owners are deeply religious and there are crosses and scripture all over the bakery. Can they be forced to make a cake celebrating Satan?