# Should serving hot dogs with ketchup rather than mustard & relish be punished by death?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 27, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609 "2020-02-27T17:38:39Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/41 "2020-02-27T23:46:56Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> I think these penalties should be reserved for people who try to influence how other people like to eat their food. Eat however you like.

This. The next person who posts one of these threads should be forced to work at the Heinz plant bottling ketchup.

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**Author:** ![california\_jobcase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@california\_jobcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/california_jobcase)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/42 "2020-02-27T23:47:51Z")

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Catsup on a hot dog? Not my favorite, but live and let live, I say.

One time when I was young, I ate a hot dog with Miracle Whip on it… and I liked it!!!

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/43 "2020-02-27T23:48:01Z")

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nm (sorry…keep getting timed-out then reloading reposts)

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/44 "2020-02-27T23:48:21Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I get sooo much pushback from people when it comes to ketchup on a hot dog. Usually they loudly tell me to STFU, they can eat whatever they want, how they want.
> 
> And I agree but it is akin to being allowed to say anything you want because you have free speech. You can certainly do it but you are not free from other people’s reactions if you say something awful.
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> If you went to a good sushi restaurant and squirted ketchup on your sushi you are free to do so but you cannot be surprised when the restaurant asks you to leave (and I guarantee some places would assuming they didn’t outright refuse the request in the first place).
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> I will give a pass to kids under 10. They can do ketchup on a hot dog. After that they should know better.

Who the hell made you the Hot Dog maven?  
The mere fact that you are equating a hot dog and sushi makes your opinion suspect.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/45 "2020-02-27T23:59:16Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> At Johnny’s Hot Dog, at the southwest corner of Cleveland’s West Side Market, they always want to put mustard on my breakfast chili dogs. And look at me funny when I decline.
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> Why the hell would a good chili dog need mustard? Do you stir mustard into your bowl o’ red?

No, it’s not necessary but it adds a little tang. I can take it or leave it.I do want cheese, however, and sometimes pickles.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/46 "2020-02-28T00:04:48Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> Yeah. \*\*Hate \*\*sweet pickle relish. My go-to is just mustard and chopped onions.  
> …

You can sometimes find dill pickle relish, it’s great!

Ketchup is too damn sweet.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/47 "2020-02-28T00:36:02Z")

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Drag it through the garden. If that happens to include some ketchup, no problem. It had better have a dill pickle, onions, tomatoes, sport peppers and spicy hot/sweet relish on it . Famous Dave’s spicy relish is great. Mustard is good as well.

Two please.

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**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/48 "2020-02-28T00:43:11Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Please explain your answer. Poll coming.

I like ketchup. I like mustard. I don’t like relish… at all.

I nominate myself First Heretic…

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/49 "2020-02-28T01:14:28Z")

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we have a place that opened in 1940 and they only sell hotdogs and they will never put ketchup on one . They also sell cokes only in glass bottles. I finally went there recently and the dogs were mediocre at best . They are only open 12-4 every day except Sunday when they are closed.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/50 "2020-02-28T01:24:23Z")

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> [@telemark](#):
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> i think these penalties should be reserved for people who try to influence how other people like to eat their food. Eat however you like.

no you will eat as i tell you

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/51 "2020-02-28T01:25:33Z")

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That was supposed to be all caps.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/52 "2020-02-28T01:32:35Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> So, you eat breakfast chili dogs often enough to say what the staff ‘always’ does when you order them?
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> Hardcore. I can’t compete with that. You’re in charge of the toppings, boss-man.

Thanx, but not really…I visit Cleveland occasionally to see the one sister who still lives there, and I always pop up to the West Side Market for fresh vegetables, meat, cheese, bread, etc. it’s best to go early in the morning, and Johnny Hot Dog is right there, so why not?

You chase them down with a 20 cent cup of fresh buttermilk at one of the dairy stands. A little salt sprinkled on the surface, of course.

On the way out, pick up a couple of grilled bratwurst sandwiches on a hard roll with kraut and brown mustard. (As opposed to a brat in Sheboygan, which gets raw onion, pickle, and brown mustard.)

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/53 "2020-02-28T01:58:14Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Hot dogs should not be served with anything on them. Serve them up plain, and have a little table where the eater can choose their own condiment to put on them (including mustard, relish, and yes, ketchup if they so choose).

If your scheme had been followed this morning, I would not have had anything to bitch about. I would’ve had a happy lunch, not one spoiled by the devil’s condiment.

> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#):
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> Only if we can do the same with french fries. I feel that might be less popular but makes more sense IMHO. Places I buy fries don’t offer ketchup. Both are close to “eating well done steak with ketchup” territory to me, but not quite.

Wait… are you saying that there are restaurants that SERVE french fries already slathered in ketchup? Because that’s all kinds of wrong. Such a thing had literally never occurred to me.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/54 "2020-02-28T02:03:57Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> I think these penalties should be reserved for people who try to influence how other people like to eat their food. Eat however you like.

I phrased both OP & poll question quite carefully. My complaint is to serving the dogs with ketchup already on them, something when would only expect to be done in a Turkish prison.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/55 "2020-02-28T02:37:21Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I phrased both OP & poll question quite carefully. My complaint is to serving the dogs with ketchup already on them, something when would only expect to be done in a Turkish prison.

Well, then I would echo **Chronos’s** comment. Why would a hot dog server ever put anything on the hot dog, unless you were in Chicago and ordered a Chicago dog? Or at a NYC hot dog cart and said “Gimme kraut, mustard, and onions?”

Everyplace else, you take your damn dog over to the condiment area and fix it the way you like.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/56 "2020-02-28T02:42:47Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Ketchup OR relish should be punished by death.
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> Even when I make Chicago-style hot dogs at home, I leave out that awful Day-Glo relish. The sliced dill pickle is enough pickle for me.

I agree. I totally do not understand that nuclear-colored relish. I was born and raised here, and my local hot dog stand just used normal non-neon relish.

I don’t care what anyone puts on their hot dogs. Just don’t ever put ketchup on my hot dog unless I specifically ask for it (and there are times I will do as the locals and put ketchup on a hot dog.)

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/57 "2020-02-28T02:44:36Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Everyplace else, you take your damn dog over to the condiment area and fix it the way you like.

The hot dog stands I’ve been to, even out of the Midwest, all seem to have some variant of “the works” or some standard way of serving them. I mean, condiment area? Sure, if I’m eating at a ballpark or gas station.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/58 "2020-02-28T02:54:35Z")

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Only mustard. I will sometimes add onions, and dill relish.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/59 "2020-02-28T03:16:12Z")

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Only if said ketchup isn’t Heinz. Anyone who eats any other brand of ketchup shall burn in hell for all eternity.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-serving-hot-dogs-with-ketchup-rather-than-mustard-relish-be-punished-by-death/848609/60 "2020-02-28T03:22:47Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Who decided it must be mustard-only on hotdogs?

Two authorities, equally definitive:  
National Hot Dog and Sausage Council

[http://www.hot-dog.org/culture/hot-dog-etiquette](http://www.hot-dog.org/culture/hot-dog-etiquette)  
Harry Callahan

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5JIpT4GkyM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5JIpT4GkyM)  
Case closed.

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